I have, however, felt people who have been able to effectively take my balance and take me to the ground using techniques like nikyo, sankyo, and yonkyo without pain.
You still haven't told me how this was done, and I really am interested to know how (honestly).
I'm not trying to be smart or anything.
Could you explain this for Nikyo as an example, and how it was done to you?
No problem if you can't.
It was great talking with you.
[Edited by chris on August 17, 2000 at 06:00pm]