Millerwc

In seidokan we have several modified versions of sankyo that do not involve joint locks at all. Instead of torquing up, we simply turn and cut, and the result often feels more like ikkyo with a sankyo grip. I personally prefer it, especially as uke, as at no point in the technique does it feel like nage can rip your arm off, completely painless. The benefit to this is that uke cannot really feel you doing anything to him until it's too late for him to resist, as he's already on the ground.