Re: Aikido & Judo
I think there is truth to the judo post. I think you get out of training what you put into training. I think many of O'Sensei's students were fairly good fighters before training aikido, so it would make sense they did not require that training within their aikido training.
I see a lot of aikido people who say, "aikido is not about fighting." If you don't put fight into your training, I don't think you'll get fight out of your training. The confusion comes when those who do not excel in aikido claim their handicap results from the art, not their skill. Add to that confusion those who claim their ignorance of fighting results from the art, not their skill.