One has to ask themselves why no one has stepped up in such venues yet using things we cannot just classify as regular ol' external, and how much longer we in the internal community can tolerate it until we have to admit either internal strength as they envision it doesn't exist, or cannot be distinguished from regular ol external strength.
You may not have seen earlier posts noting that this aspect is just not well known in the world, has been kept pretty much under wraps by mainly Asian practitioners who want to keep the "secrets" to themselves, and that it is only just now being discussed publicly on such venues as this forum. Thus, the best way to learn what it contains is to take advantage to the few Western (and Eastern) sources that can actually show you.
It's easier to sit in an armchair and vortch
about it, but let's see you actually take action to pursue the answers to your own questions, instead of simply paying lip service!