Chris Hein wrote:
1. Yes ALL top level athletes have great internal ability, that's why they are top level athletes.
I don't think you are talking about the same thing that people are talking about.
I'm not pointing at Chris Hein but trying to make a general point that Craig is highlighting. Once someone understands the essence of yi/intent (the "Divine Mind" as translated in O-Sensei's douka) in the use of ki/kokyu skills, there would be no way to think that top-level athletes would have "internal ability". It tells you right away that the conversation is, as Craig pointed out, about something quite different. It's what Dan and others have pointed out about many posts in the past.... you can tell by what someone posts pretty much what they know about the topic.
None of these conversations is going to be resolved in the hoped-for friendly manner until people get out and meet others. All the guys I know who are keenly into these things get out and meet; if it's productive they pursue; not productive, they move on. I've spent a lot of time and money "going to see" in my life.... but I recommend it as the best way to learn and the best way to avoid pissing contests on the internet.