Thread: High kicking
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Old 01-05-2007, 10:00 AM   #51
Michael McCaslin
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Re: High kicking

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Chris Birke wrote:
Agreed Justin, clearly you speak from expirence. Professionals like bouncers and cops never grapple; too dangerous on the street. Grappling is simply choosing to be on the bottom...
Uhhh.... nope.

You have to be careful using "professionals" and "never" in the same sentence, particularly in a public forum where some of them hang out (for the record, I'm not one of them).

I'm pretty sure it's been pointed out here before, but if it hasn't now is as good a time as any. "Professionals" like cops and bouncers have fewer options at their disposal in a confrontation than a "civilian" does. If a citizen's safety is threatened, he is (in most states) justified in taking any reasonable action to defend himself. He can just kick the aggressor in the groin and run.

Cops and bouncers, on the other hand, have rules of engagement and force escalation they must follow. They also don't have the option of the "Reebok defense." They are often forced to grab and control people (which meets the definition of grappling IMHO) who a person not acting in a professional capacity might just decide to bash over the head and be done with it.

In general, it is much harder for the pros to engage a threat in a proactive manner, because liability concerns typically drive them to escalate force in a reactive mode, and limit their options when they do. The general populace is not subject to these limitations.

This, IMHO, is one reason you see the professionals gravitating towards grappling training against resistive opponents over the last several years. It's much less risky from a liability standpoint (and arguably more effective) than hitting someone with a club (especially when you are constrained as to where, how hard, and how often you can do it), and you can't tase everyone.

Us regular folks are allowed to kill monsters. Cops usually have to figure out a way to get a leash on them. It's a tough job.
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