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Ron Tisdale wrote:
..but usually only after hitting the guy in the nose first.
Best,
Ron
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That is what I call real Budo spirit!!!

All this aiki fruity tenkanig we all say loudly NO, THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!!
90% atemi + 10% irimi = aikido
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But in kihon waza we let uke try to get up again
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That is very big mistake. There is NOTHING in the whole world that will guaranty you such uke's behavior. This is completely artificial comportment. Beginner will collapse down. Well trained attacker will enter to the legs to do take down.
You guys you reinforce some strange illusions, sorry to be honest, Dirk.