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Originally posted by deepsoup
I'm a little confused. 
Do you mean that the last 11 are not considered part of Nage no Kata.
(ie: Nage no Kata + Ouyowaza = Koryu Dai Yon) ?
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I mean that Nage no Kata are the first 14 techniques of Koryu Dai Yon. Koryu-Dai-Yon contain the 14 techniques of the Nage no Kata plus 11 more. Those 11 are not the Oya no kata.
I know. I was just pointing out that they kata series are not lost but the Shodokan syllabus skirts around them. The themes are covered in other ways.