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Old 11-14-2001, 05:05 AM   #8
ranZ
 
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Mal, why don't we ask sensei next Sunday

but in the mean time, here's an excerpt from http://www.vakisociety.org/instructors.shtml

Aikido Ranks:

Yonkyu: Fourth Kyu
Sankyu: Third Kyu
Nikyu: Second Kyu
Ikkyu: First Kyu (Brown Belt)
Shodan: First degree black belt
Nidan: Second degree black belt
Sandan: Third degree black belt
Yondan: Fourth degree black belt

Ki Development Ranks:
Chukyu: "intermediate beginner" rank
Jokyu: "advanced beginner" rank
Shoden: First degree "black belt" ki development
Chuden: Second degree "black belt" ki development

one of their instructors
Robert E. Gardner, Senior Instructor, Nidan, Associate Ki Lecturer, Shoden
Is nidan in aikido, but shoden in ki.

Maybe the ki development is about the kiatsu (ki healing) and all, and maybe the way to test is diffrent from ki aikido.
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