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Old 11-10-2005, 08:54 AM   #17
Erick Mead
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Re: Zazen Meditation, Haragei and Focus

Trevor Wolfe wrote:
it might take me 10 minutes to fall asleep if I command my thoughts to stop, and in Zazen it takes 10 - 15 minutes for the pleasent effects to occur.
There is a danger recognized by the Ch'an/Zen schools from the first days in China on through Soto and Rinzai of "seeking" meditation as an experience or end for enjoyment in itself.
Not that there's anything wrong with that.
It is just contrary to the use of zazen as a tool to a fundamentally larger purpose.

Erick Mead
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