Jay Vigilla wrote:
Any suggestions in how we can reach these two? Our sensei is great and understanding, though with our status as a Univertity dojo it is sometimes difficult to enforce (self-)discipline. I hope to hear from you all.
It may be a radical approach
, but how about just talking to them directly? In all but a very few cases that should be all that's needed. It always surprises me that such an approach is not the first choice in so many cases.