I have a judo dogi form http://www.bugei.com/index.htm
for about 65 $, not bad, softened up real good with 2 or 3 washes and has a nee patch. Sleeves are normal length not the 3/4 that you need for Aikido, and only comes in unbleached. Its new but seams to be strong. My other judo style dogi is actual an Aikido Gi from http://www.budostuff.com/
It's kinda expensive, 110$ w/65$ S&H, but very well made, 3/4 sleeves nee patch from mid thigh to bottom of hem, and pant length is short so hides well under hak. You can get it bleached or unbleached, I like unbleached my self. It's my fav. As for a karate gi, most everyone in my dojo wares bujin's gi's, so I went and ordered one to, should be here tomorrow. Thats all so far.