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Old 07-21-2005, 08:44 AM   #66
Dojo: Jihonjuku/ St.Pete. FL
Location: Palm Harbor, Florida
Join Date: Jul 2004
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Re: Will the Real Catholic Aikidoka Please Step Forward, Ladies First

James Chye wrote:
As a parameter that measures the aesthetic elegance of the equation or the aesthetic elegance of the system/state that the equation describes?

You might be on to something, if the definition could be quantified. I'm not sure that ki always manifests itself in an elegant way, but sensei has always mentioned it as usefulness. Elegance and usefulness are highly correlated in aikido, but are not always causally linked in a martial setting. For me (being a non-native speaker of Japanese), ki, at least in the context of aikido, is focuses the intension made manifest through the body. I could hyperventilate and stumble back or I could exhale and surge forward. I know which of these has better ki in general, but there might be rare times when the first is appropriate and the second is not. My experience tells me which to use.

It seems to me that if your KI parameter is a measure of elegance and usefulness (martially), then it is only a matter of time before robots have it in spades (less than 200 years from now almost certainly).

I agree that some equations in physics have some intense KI. After all, good jazz and blues can have lots of soul.

I think you can/do put your soul into everything that you do. The more of your soul that is invested, the more it shows. Whether into music, text, aikido, children, friendships or comedy, there is the part of each act that effects the universe forever. Will I float about as a shadow after death? I doubt it. Will this text exist as magnetic domains on some drive and in the minds and subsequent actions of those who read it and those who interact with them? Indubitably. Neither will I or my keyboard be quite the same from this moment on.

If you thought to ask the question...
I was in fact thinking more along the line 'the aesthetic elegance of the system/state that the equation describes." But without doubt in music when ad libbing with a group of musicians the synchronize-ty that occurs unspoken is an incredible blending and the outpouring is quite often elegant. Will text remain somewhere through time? Matters not. Will I do something that someone else sees as a positive thing in their life and they in turn to something positive in the same way? That is what I would rather see rippling across the universe forever. Thank you for your thoughts James, and yes you are right if "you thought to ask the question..."
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