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Old 07-05-2005, 01:37 AM   #45
Chris Li
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Re: Weapons training leads to good aikido.

Peter Rehse wrote:
Its pretty much an aside but there really only is one story of Takeda S. using his sword E real life" and neither of the above three gentleman were particularily known for their sword skills (outside of AIkido). In fact there is quite a bit of critism outside of Aikido of both Ueshiba M. and Saito vis a vis their knowledge of the sword as sword.
Takeda was actually a well known swordsman before he was ever known for Daito-ryu. He had menkyo kaiden in Jiki-Shinkage Ryu from Kenkichi Sakakibara, one of the most famous swordsmen of the period, and was also expert in Ono-ha Itto-ryu, which he began studying as a young child. If he'd been just a couple of years older he probably would have died along with the other members of the Byakkotai in Aizu, so "real life" sword work was something that he grew up with.

Morihei Ueshiba's sword appears to have been mostly self taught and was either excellent or just mediocre, depending upon whose opinion you listen to. My guess would be that his sword work was probably quite good, but unorthodox and unorganized (as in unorganized into a coherent or traditional system). He did receive a Yagyu Shinkage-ryu kenjutsu menkyo from Sokaku in 1922.

Saito's sword is mostly an effort to systemize what Ueshiba was doing, but seems, IMO, to have gotten fairly far from the original sword work into a system that is more oriented towards teaching body movement.



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