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Old 07-22-2001, 04:49 PM   #2
Join Date: Jun 2000
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Hi Dallas
I hope your arm is feeling better by now! Sometimes uke (or nage) can get hurt on the mat, not by accident, and you're right, it's not right. Ego is ususally involved, and in my opinion it can be the fault of uke, nage, or often both.
In one situation, nage (tori?) is doing something wrong, blames his uke, and then throws a lot of muscle or undue speed into the next technique. How do I handle someone like that? I either avoid working with them, or am careful not to provoke their ego: I don't fight the technique anyway, but if you do I wouldn't with someone like this. I also check out with my PARTNER when the technique is obviously not going well if there is something they would like differently from me---not only does this help 'disarm' the revenge motive in nages like this, but also sometimes it IS uke's fault. How?
We all know the technique being done, and the energy and direction of force needed on uke's attack for nage to direct and control him. So it is easy to unconsciously (or consciously) refuse to provide that energy. This is bad on uke's part, not only because it deprives their PARTNER of a chance to practice the shown technique correctly, but it shows a refusal on uke's part to do the attack as his sensei would prefer (so practice can continue)---the same ego as seen in the above nage: 'ha, you can't do this technique'. If nage cannot do the technique as shown due to uke refusing to give the correct force or direction of force to complete the technique, he has usually four options: inform uke what needs to change in their attack so that injury-free practice continues; give up on the technique all together; perform a different technique (which might catch uke off guard and hurt him) based on what uke is providing; try to complete the technique, which may hurt uke if uke is providing more energy that uke can handle if the technique is done.
Which brings me to the end of this long answer: my goal as uke is to provide the attack that will allow my partner to practice the technique. If things don't go well I am willing to look at it may be due to how I am attacking, my committment to attack and connection, my willingness to move in relation to my partner in a smart way (e.g. don't present a weak area to them while refusing to move where they need you to go for the technique, often seen when ego meets ikkyo). But if all else fails, I understand the attack and the technique--I don't attack harder or faster than I can fall, and don't resist to a point I can't control my fall if the technique is done. As uke I am giving my body to my partner to practice the technique, but I am responsible for avoiding injury to it by an awareness of what he is doing to it.
Put some ice on that wrist and good luck!

Last edited by guest1234 : 07-22-2001 at 04:56 PM.
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