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Old 03-30-2011, 09:59 AM   #17
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Re: Zen in the Art of Aikido

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Demetrio Cereijo wrote: View Post
And almost 8 years later we're still with the 'victory over oneself'...
Well, in the absence of a "Ueshiba Mysticism Debunked" book, we all just come by information here and there. I wish I had more time to study, but thanks to this thread, I read that one. That thread was great, at least the posts from Dr. Goldsbury.

Regarding more on-topic discussion. When did the meaning of "zen" change (as indicated by Nicholas)? I get it with regard to the 20th century imperialism. But was this word really "abused" already in the 19th century too? (Or should I just read the references?) Thanks all!
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