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~RIYO~ 08-01-2005 10:02 PM

other places
I was wondering, I don't train with alot of people, 1,2,3 at the most.
So what is it like training with a lot of people?Is it harder?Are you more embarassed if you do something wrong?Whats it like? :) :D

Mark Uttech 08-02-2005 09:00 AM

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Believe me, small classes are where you learn the most. Of course, in larger classes, there is a greater variety of training partners too. Since it is very good to just focus on a few things, a small
class is where that can happen. In gassho.

happysod 08-02-2005 09:29 AM

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You're going to get at least one person suggesting that you go and find out for yourself followed by some dojos in your area to try and the odd seminar.. so be warned.

Simple answer is, it's not really any different if by training with you mean in a dojo setting rather than a seminar/demo. Even the larger dojos normally only hit between 20-40 on the mat at any one time, if you train regularly you'll just see the same faces anyway so the sense of unfamiliarity will go away, which is what I felt you were alluding to.

I'll agree and disagree with Mark concerning learning more. Certainly, you can focus more on what you need with a smaller group and if your training vigorously, it's more tiring (more ukes = more time to catch breath I find). However, I prefer at least a reasonable spread of people to practice with in a night as I believe it allows you a better test of how well you're actually doing to technique(s) - but that's just me.

Sanshouaikikai 08-02-2005 12:05 PM

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Probably the biggest advantage in training with a lot of people, like at my school for instance, is that you get a feel for different types of people, you know what I mean? In a bigger school you'll have people of all shapes, sizes, and that sense it would be better than in a smaller school. However...I prefer smaller schools...though one REALLY, REALLLY, REALLLY bad thing that can happen at a small school (which I have experienced mind you) is the "clique" or "cult attitude." This happens when it's only like 5-8 people in a dojo and they're all black belts so they just train and work out and talk with each other so much that when a new student comes in to learn...especially if they have some experience with other arts (after they ask you if you have experience with other arts mind you) they want to talk down to you and they have this really nasty, negative "I don't want to teach you or anyone else that's new" attitude. I had that experience within my OWN dojo!!! My dojo shares Aikido and Judo on tuesdays, thursdays, and Saturdays. They do Tae Kwon Do on Mondays and Wednesdays and Dan Zan Ryu Jujitsu also on Mondays and Wednesdays. It was the Dan Zan Ryu Jujitsu group (which is very small and they're all black belts [as well as the TKD group] ) that I had this negative experience. However...thanks to my faith in Christ, first and foremost, and my limited Aikido training I handled it well. :)

dyffcult 08-03-2005 12:47 AM

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I have trained in dojos that regularly have over forty students a night and ones that average only five. I have also trained where each student has the same partner for the entire night, and ones where you change partners after every technique demonstrated. I have also trained where there are lots of high ranking students and where there are none.

My personal preference is a larger dojo, with lots of high ranking students, where you train with the same partner throughout the whole class. I found that my chances to learn were increased, but I still was able to focus on technique each night without having to learn a new uke each technique. I trained with a wide variety of uke over time, but the chance to focus each night was preferable to me.

However, if it came down to it, I would rather have small classes with a disproportionate number of shodan and higher, than a large class with mainly white belts. Increases the level and intensity of my training...


Nick Simpson 08-03-2005 02:17 AM

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More fun training with a lot of people, it feels great to have that collective buzz on the mat when everyone is excited to be there. I also like the start of term at the uni dojo's when there is like 50 new people there or so. Thats great to be a part of. But its also great to have a higher grade smaller class over the summer, during this time we can really let rip and go for it with the ikkyu's and dan grades. Great grading training!

Lyle Bogin 08-03-2005 12:12 PM

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It's sweatier. smellier, and more likely you'll have a training accident getting thrown into someone. As a beginner you'll get more conflicting instructions in one training session.

But it's also fun and exciting.

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