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Paula Lydon 07-20-2004 04:02 PM

serious student
~~Hi All! Taking a poll: What attributes, in your mind, would deem someone a 'serious Aikido student'? Thanks!

kironin 07-20-2004 04:35 PM

Re: serious student
Someone I have come to count on being there almost every class.

Someone who comes to watch training when injured (hopefully by a cause outside the dojo).

Someone who attends seminars even when they are in another city.

Someone who is always helpful to other students.

Someone who gets properly prepared for rank exams.

Someone who volunteers.

shihonage 07-20-2004 06:24 PM

Re: serious student
Someone who can break all the windows in the dojo with one fart.

Lachlan Kadick 07-20-2004 07:58 PM

Re: serious student
a serious student? someone who lets the art come to life in their life and not just in training. To atleast it is someone who can see and feel the human body and mind, and be able learn how to harmonize with them.

amberlee 07-20-2004 08:04 PM

Re: serious student
I agree with Aleksey:)

Ian Williams 07-20-2004 09:00 PM

Re: serious student
someone whos aim is to crush their enemies, see them driven before them, and to hear the lamentation of the women!

(apologies to conan)

Charles Hill 07-20-2004 10:01 PM

Re: serious student
In my opinion, a serious student is one who is willing to give up the old self to become someone new.

Charles Hill

bleepbeep 07-20-2004 10:21 PM

Re: serious student
someone who has made a commitment to learn and study the art,

sweeps aside all excuses to not practice and finds time and reason to practice,

puts heart mind and spirit and body in the art

and manages to balance everything else to a healthy and positive life,

practices the art in a "positive, joyful but also constructive manner"

knows that it takes time and a lot of practice to appreciate and discover aikido and its principles

happysod 07-21-2004 02:44 AM

Re: serious student
Someone who can read the pretentious lists of things expected from them by their "predecessors in the art" and not giggle too much.

Serious student = someone who trains regularly and diligently on the mat (with or without the farting technique, but it's a thought...).

justMe 07-21-2004 06:12 AM

Re: serious student
Someone who keeps their mouth shut and mind open.
Someone who comes to the mat to train , not socialize.
Someone who seeks to understand the technique being taught, not to play the what-if game ("yeah, but if the attacker does this or that").
Someone who is both humble and genuine on and off the mat.

Lyle Laizure 07-21-2004 08:23 AM

Re: serious student
Someone that always shows up with an empty cup.
Someone whos focus on the mat is practice.
Someone that does not talk class away with needless questions.
Someone with a desire to learn.

Wayne 07-21-2004 08:53 AM

Re: serious student
What Craig said. Each are goals for me in my practice.


kironin 07-21-2004 09:16 AM

Re: serious student
It would be kind of interesting to see what people who teach regular classes responses were versus those who don't teach classes but are regular students. I am wondering, does teaching change significantly how you think about this.

There could be a special third category for responses from 10 year olds just for Aleksey.

Jordan Steele 07-21-2004 11:53 AM

Re: serious student
A serious student...just like a professional golf up, shut up, and keep up.

p00kiethebear 07-21-2004 11:57 AM

Re: serious student

Someone that always shows up with an empty cup.
Not if they were supposed to be getting me a beer.

Bronson 07-21-2004 12:57 PM

Re: serious student
  • show up
  • do your best
  • pay dues on time


p.s. I teach regularly

NagaBaba 07-21-2004 01:24 PM

Re: serious student
Yes, beer for sensei is critical responsability of serious student.

Jill N 07-21-2004 01:32 PM

Re: serious student
Hi all:
A serious student is:

Someone who shows up to class every time they can

Someone who does little things for the dojo

Someone who tries their best to do what has been shown, doesn't just do what they always do.

Someone who asks the questions they need to ask, but not the ones they can find out by practicing

Someone who realizes that repetitions are a necessary component of learning a physical skill

Someone who is respectful of other practitioners' well being and learning needs

I teach regularly, too.

e ya later

suren 07-21-2004 06:25 PM

Re: serious student

Charles Hill wrote:
a serious student is one who is willing to give up the old self to become someone new.

To my mind this is the perfect definition. Really challenging. Thanks Charles.

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