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Anat Amitay 12-26-2003 01:34 AM

anyone heard of a MA called "aiki"?
 
I was reading a local newspaper some time ago and in one of the neighbouring towns here there was a sports day also featuring MA's.
The article mostly talked about a new MA called "Aiki" which was acknowledged by the international federation of MA's.
I didn't see what they do as techniques but the idea is teaching respect, calmness etc. very much like aikido. On the other hand it said that they also teach attacks (very much not like aikido) and different weapons, including some that one doesn't often find in aikido.
Did anyone hear of this MA? Does anyone know if they're really acknowledged and accepted?
just wondering.
Enjoy Aikido!
Anat

shihonage 12-27-2003 04:20 AM

Re: anyone heard of a MA called "aiki"?
 
Quote:

Anat Amitay wrote:
On the other hand it said that they also teach attacks (very much not like aikido)

Ever hear of ukemi ?

In order to understand the technique one must understand the attack.

Someone needs to read this article again.

ze'ev erlich 12-27-2003 08:01 AM

AIKI --- some kind of Israeli MA association
 
Anat,

Here is a link to info in Hebrew to information on AIKI.

It is supposed to be the name of an Israeli Martial art organization. Its founder is related to Aikido.

I think they are trying to propogate non violence among children...

please see the link

http://www.tapuz.co.il/tapuzforum/ma...msgid=22053295

Ian Upstone 12-27-2003 10:00 AM

As my Hebrew is very, um, limited, I'd be interested to read about this 'aiki' in English. If anyone would be kind enough to do a brief translation here I'd be very grateful! ...It sounds like aikido without the techniques!

Aleksey, maybe I'm wrong here, but I read the article you suggested - and while I think this aspect of aikido is extremely important and worth reading, I also think it is very much out of context for this thread. Anat was only briefly describing this new MA. I don't think he was defining or making a statement about the attacks in aikido.

...many thanks for the link though!

Ian

Anat Amitay 12-29-2003 07:49 AM

thank you to all who answered.

Aleksey, you are right that aikido has ukemi but what they were discribing in the newspaper article was that they teach attacks FOR attacking. Aikido does not start a fight but of course you learn how to deliver it. Anyway, I think the writer got it wrong, I don't think they learn to attack without being attacked (by the link that was offered).

Ze'ev, thank you for the link, it's very helpful.

Ian, if I find a link in english, I'll let you know. It's a but long to rewrite.

Thank you all.

Anat

Anat Amitay 12-30-2003 10:38 AM

Hi Ian,

I'm planning on translating some of the Aiki page for you later on, so check in later.

Anat

Ian Upstone 12-30-2003 11:19 AM

Thanks very much Anat! I was only interested in what the general concept is behind it, rather than every last word, so anything you can translate is good, no matter how brief!

I'm also sure I'm not the only one who'd be interested to hear about it...

Anyway, thanks again

Ian

Anat Amitay 12-30-2003 12:04 PM

What is Aiki?
 
Aiki is an Israeli MA that teaches against street violence.

It was founded in the 90's by Ami Niv who saw a great need in teaching his students against verbal and physical violence found on the streets.

The Aiki system is an educational system that emphesises self respect, respect toward elders and respect to any other person, side by side with patience and modesty.These are highlighted in lessons and are also used by the students in their everyday life.

(now there is an explanation of the meaning "ai" and "ki").

The Aiki differs from other MA's by that it teaches education for harmony, mental peacefulness and patience.It combines this with the ability to deal with the reality of the streets today when technique and aggressiveness is needed. this combination demands of the teacher to get his student ready on the technical, mental and physical level to deal with an attacker or attackers on the street, with hot or cold weapons.

(to be continued)

Anat Amitay 12-30-2003 12:18 PM

The techniques thaught in Aiki are based on the natural movements of the human body, round and straight movements that are combined with hits of hands or legs, neutralizing and throws.A technique should end when the attacker is neutralized on the ground and the defender is ready to deal with any other threats.

Weapons are also used, such as short and long stick, knife etc.

In later trainings, defending against hot weapons, such as guns, are thaught. The efficiency of a technique is marked by the ability of a child to achive it dealing with an adult or any case of weak against strong.

The main things in practice: furthering the technical ability, physical ability, mental and the combination of them all together.

In the technical part, the idea is to bring the student to do a technique instinctivly as is needed on the street.Students train to be in better fitness and aerobic ability, and that will help them with their physical, motorical and coordinating abilities. Thje mental ablity is trained by letting the students deal with stressful situations and so that they will be able to carry that out in a real life attack situation. The trainings mimic the possible street asult the student might meet.

(to be continued)

Anat Amitay 12-30-2003 12:28 PM

The art of "war" (the fight). The Aiki is there to open the view of the the student to other MA's. Fighting terrorism, getting the student to deal with asulting situations, freeing hostages, or dealing with a number of attackers with hot weapons (as done in the army). These situations demand working together of a few soldiers/ defenders and a varity of techniques and strategies of the personal fighter or of team work.

The Aiki system was internationaly recognized in Nov. 99, by the "World union MA's Federation" and since then the founder has been spreading his art in Israel and abroad in the field of MA's and the field of fighting terrorism, which are shown before army men and different security forces everywhere.

There was no name of who wrote this part, I only traslated parts of it. I hope this did not offend anyone, but I think English readers can benefit from this.

Anat

shihonage 12-30-2003 12:40 PM

Japanese Aikido system is called "Aikido", which is a Japanese word.

Russian Aikido lookalike system is called "Systema", which is a Russian word.

I wonder, what does "Aiki" mean in Hebrew ?

And, if they're using the Japanese word... then what happened to "do" ?

ze'ev erlich 12-30-2003 01:13 PM

Dear Aleksey Sundeyev,

I don't know the founder of the so called "Israeli" Martial art - "AIKI", and I am practicing and teaching Aikido.

The name "AIKI" is not a hebrew word. "AIKI" is supposed to be the abbreviation of the words : "Israeli Fighting System"

Or in Hebrew: "אמנות קרב ישראלית" - "Amanut Krav Israelit" but then it was supposed to be AKI and not AIKI. I think it is strange.

I heard that Mr. Ami Niv also learned Aikido so I suppose that he chose the name "AIKI" just because the name "Aikido" is famous enough to help his own method be popular...

There is another very interesting and effective Israeli fighting system called "Krav Maga". The meaning of the name in Hebrew is "fight" or "combat".

Best wishes,

Ze'ev.

Daniel Lahav 07-25-2004 09:41 PM

Re: anyone heard of a MA called "aiki"?
 
Dear Friends,

I have noticed that there was a discussion about Aiki (the new Israeli MA) and Ami Niv its founder and since I saw there was a lot of interest I thought to enlighten you a bit about the AIKI Israeli Martial Art issue (since I have been one of those who were with Ami since the begining). But first, in order to get first hand information you can read about us on our new web site www.aiki-imaf.com, after that if there are questions I will be happy to answer them.
Meanwhile, stay well, keep training.
Peace, Daniel


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