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dps 08-12-2011 11:01 PM

Re: Riots in Great Britain, What Would O'Sensei Have Done
 
If it was his family and property threatened what do think O'Sensei would have done?

dps

mathewjgano 08-12-2011 11:31 PM

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David Skaggs wrote: (Post 290180)
If it was his family and property threatened what do think O'Sensei would have done?

dps

Whatever the situation called for? Kind of depends on the specific what-if scenario doesn't it? I mean, if people were trying to steal from him or his family (or otherwise harm them), I guess he would try to stop them under most circumstances.

Michael Hackett 08-13-2011 12:17 AM

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Move to Coventry?

Hellis 08-13-2011 01:12 AM

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Quote:

David Skaggs wrote: (Post 290180)
If it was his family and property threatened what do think O'Sensei would have done?

dps

O'Sensei lived in a different era as I do in the latter days of my life.
O'Sensei and others would have fought for their home and family as we all did in the second world war. In the PC UK today if you protect yourself or your property you will go to prison, and that would apply to O'Sensei.

Henry Ellis
http://britishaikido.blogspot.com/

Ketsan 08-13-2011 04:09 AM

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Michael Hackett wrote: (Post 290184)
Move to Coventry?

No-one that's seen the place would do that. :D

Belt_Up 08-13-2011 06:17 AM

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Henry Ellis wrote: (Post 290187)
O'Sensei lived in a different era as I do in the latter days of my life.
O'Sensei and others would have fought for their home and family as we all did in the second world war. In the PC UK today if you protect yourself or your property you will go to prison, and that would apply to O'Sensei.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...ester-14248097

David Maidment 08-13-2011 06:37 AM

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Alex Lawrence wrote: (Post 290191)
No-one that's seen the place would do that. :D

Someone quipped that "there's nothing to loot in Coventry except litter; we'll be fine". It made me chuckle, but this is actually quite a lovely city with a fascinating history. And a litter problem.

graham christian 08-13-2011 11:33 AM

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I think in his day a riot would be called an uprising. He went on one once didn't he? He got arrested and nearly put to death.

Regards.G.

graham christian 08-13-2011 11:40 AM

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Henry Ellis wrote: (Post 290187)
O'Sensei lived in a different era as I do in the latter days of my life.
O'Sensei and others would have fought for their home and family as we all did in the second world war. In the PC UK today if you protect yourself or your property you will go to prison, and that would apply to O'Sensei.

Henry Ellis
http://britishaikido.blogspot.com/

Henry. I've said for years now that if a political party wants to win an election with a landslide then all they have to do is run on the 'ticket' of
'An Englishman's Home is his Castle'

Regards.G.

Lyle Laizure 08-14-2011 08:28 PM

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I don't know about O'Sensei but I would just call Chuck Norris.

dps 08-14-2011 11:51 PM

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Apparently the riots were orchestrated. The younger members of the various gangs would be sent out to riot and distract the police while the older ones did the looting.

UK gangs thrive in August riots;

http://news.yahoo.com/ap-enterprise-...103756755.html

dps

oisin bourke 08-15-2011 04:28 AM

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Well,

I don't know about O sensei, but this gentleman lost his son in a hit and run during the riots, and this is what he has to say:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdPglRJcrJA

His speech has been credited with helping to calm things in the local community.

graham christian 08-15-2011 06:02 AM

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Oisin Bourke wrote: (Post 290301)
Well,

I don't know about O sensei, but this gentleman lost his son in a hit and run during the riots, and this is what he has to say:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdPglRJcrJA

His speech has been credited with helping to calm things in the local community.

Oisin.
Yes, that man has been amazing. They held a peace march there yesterday.

The 'killers' have been found and arrested.

The courts have been open all weekend, 2,500 arrested so far. 1,200 sentenced.

One guy yesterday got arrested after the laptop he stole had a security cam gadget and so sent a picture of him and his whereabouts to police.

David. Don't be so easily led. As usual criminal gangs did take advantage of the situation as happens in all mass disturbances.

Regards.G.

Hellis 08-15-2011 01:59 PM

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Graham Christian wrote: (Post 290213)
Henry. I've said for years now that if a political party wants to win an election with a landslide then all they have to do is run on the 'ticket' of
'An Englishman's Home is his Castle'

Regards.G.

Graham

I have not heard that expression for a very long time. If a politician said it and meant it, then as you say they could run with that.
How can you trust a Prime Minister that cuts the winter allowance for the elderly and during the same week gives 650m to schools in Pakistan.

Henry Ellis
http://britishaikido.blogspot.com/

graham christian 08-15-2011 03:52 PM

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Henry Ellis wrote: (Post 290334)
Graham

I have not heard that expression for a very long time. If a politician said it and meant it, then as you say they could run with that.
How can you trust a Prime Minister that cuts the winter allowance for the elderly and during the same week gives 650m to schools in Pakistan.

Henry Ellis
http://britishaikido.blogspot.com/

Oh come on Henry those poor kids are freezing. No but seriously, I agree, in fact I would say 'How could you trust a prime minister?'

Regards.G.

David Maidment 08-16-2011 01:38 AM

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The problem with politics is that everyone has good intentions. Right up until they get into power and realise that the last guy was a poor leader because we work within a framework of capitalism and external political pressures, which entail limited funds and that you have to screw over one guy to help the other. No leader can ever do it 'right', because our political system of choice is always going to favour one sub-set of society and penalise another.

There are very simple solutions, of course, but no one's prepared to suggest them because we don't want to look too much like those commie buggers in the East or those dictators in the Middle East.

Although, to be fair, David Cameron was very truthful in his election campaigns; he told everyone of his plans that basically said, "I'm going to f*** you all over to 'fix' things" and people seemed to cheer him. But now they're crying wolf. That was one thing that I never quite understood.

Hellis 08-16-2011 01:53 AM

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Graham Christian wrote: (Post 290338)
Oh come on Henry those poor kids are freezing. No but seriously, I agree, in fact I would say 'How could you trust a prime minister?'

Regards.G.

Graham

Perhaps the elderly should riot while they are warm and alive.:dead:

Dailymail:
Nine elderly people died every hour from cold-related illnesses last winter against a background of soaring energy bills.
Official figures show the number of deaths linked to cold over the four-month period reached 25,400 in England and Wales, plus 2,760 in Scotland.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz1VAvYLs28

Henry Ellis
http://britishaikido.blogspot.com/

Hellis 08-16-2011 04:33 AM

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[quote=David Maidment;290358]The problem with politics is that everyone has good intentions.

David

I write a short article each week in my local paper on various subjects..I was asked what I thought of our local conservative MP Dr Phillip Lee who leading a campaign to stop door to door salespeople misleading the public ( such as gas ).

I wrote that Dr Lee himself was a prime culprit of his own campaign.
When his represntatives knocked on my door during the election build up they never said they would take away part of my winter allowance and give all to the third world ( and more ) I was not surprised that the paper did not print the truth.
Back to O'Sensei, I suspect that at his age he may be one of those that would freeze to death.

Henry Ellis
http://rik-ellis.blogspot.com/

Chuck Clark 08-16-2011 08:07 AM

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He might do what he did earlier... retreat to the countryside out of harm's way. It's good strategy for survival and he was able to continue to affect his students during and after the troubles.


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