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B'Dragon 09-23-2010 11:02 AM

Sword Cutting names
 
Lately, I have been working on a kata that involves all eight cuts I found in an old Iaido book. But the names are a bit confusing to me. Any input would be greatly appreciated. This is what I think the correct names are; all cuts are viewed from the nage or practioner point of view:

Shomen Uchi - vertical overhead strike (high to low)
hidari kesa giri - from upper left to diagonally lower right
hidari ichimonji giri - horizontal cut left to right
hidari joho giri - from lower left to diagonally upper right
kiri age - vertical upper cut (low to high)
migi joho giri - from lower right to diagonally upper left
migi ichimonji giri - horizontal right to left
migi kesa giri - from upper right to diagonally lower left

Don't know if this explains it well, but this is the best I can do for now.
Any help appreciated. :confused:

ninjaqutie 09-23-2010 01:34 PM

Re: Sword Cutting names
 
Quote:

Ralph Martin wrote: (Post 264905)
Lately, I have been working on a kata that involves all eight cuts I found in an old Iaido book. But the names are a bit confusing to me. Any input would be greatly appreciated. This is what I think the correct names are; all cuts are viewed from the nage or practioner point of view:

Shomen Uchi - vertical overhead strike (high to low)
hidari kesa giri - from upper left to diagonally lower right
hidari ichimonji giri - horizontal cut left to right
hidari joho giri - from lower left to diagonally upper right
kiri age - vertical upper cut (low to high)
migi joho giri - from lower right to diagonally upper left
migi ichimonji giri - horizontal right to left
migi kesa giri - from upper right to diagonally lower left

Don't know if this explains it well, but this is the best I can do for now.
Any help appreciated. :confused:

I think you are going to find the terms differ from one dojo and teacher to another. We don't use those exact terms in my dojo. We just use kesa (your hidari kesa giri), gyaku kesa (your hidari joho giri), yoko, tsuki, morote tsuki, shomen, etc. I know that wasn't helpful at all.... :o

Adam Huss 09-24-2010 08:41 AM

Re: Sword Cutting names
 
Hmmm...hashu giri would probably mean "8 cuts"...is that what you're talking about? A name for the grouping of those techniques?

phitruong 09-24-2010 10:04 AM

Re: Sword Cutting names
 
whoa! lots of name for sword cuts! i only have three: vertical cut, side cut, and stab. sorry, i kinda go with simple approach of putting the sharp and pointy parts of my blade into the soft and cushy parts of the other bugger(s).

of course if you go with the chinese approach of sword play then you have cuts with name like,

lady combing hair while doing dishes
guy brushing horse mane while picking nose
monkey eating banana while scratching ass
drunken guy praying to the white basin god
Buddha offer up his left cheek
and so on
and so forth :D

Randy Sexton 09-25-2010 03:39 PM

Re: Sword Cutting names
 
Phi, Thanks for the laugh!!

Doc Sexton

Ian Keane 10-01-2010 10:03 PM

Re: Sword Cutting names
 
You can get a sense of what the names mean by breaking down the Japanese vocabulary:

sho = front
men = head
uchi = strike

So, for example, shomen uchi is a strike at the front of your opponent's head.

hidari = left
migi = right

A kesa is a sash or stole worn by monks, extending from the left shoulder to the right hip. It is used in a metaphorical context here, to indicate a diagonal line from the shoulder to the hip.

giri = cut
ichimonji = a horizontal line

I'm not sure about joho, but it is often attached to the beginning of words to indicate "upward".

age = rising

Hope that helps.

Josh Reyer 10-02-2010 10:47 AM

Re: Sword Cutting names
 
Quote:

Ian Keane wrote: (Post 265403)
I'm not sure about joho, but it is often attached to the beginning of words to indicate "upward".

上方 jouhou - upward direction.


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