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nomad 08-10-2000 04:45 AM

Hello im new here I just started Aikido last week and it was great I loved it the people, the Sensi were great friendly my question whats the best way to cure very sore limbs (due to this being the first excerise in along time)is it a case of just keep streching and it gets better or do things like tiger balm really work

Keith_S 08-10-2000 06:45 AM

My teacher told has told me two things of relevance here.

When I first started Aikido he told me "Welcome to a life of Pain". I suppose he was right.

A few years later, when discussing the discomfort of sitting in seiza for a long time we were told. "The pain won't go away, what you will end up doing is changing your relationship with the pain."

I've paraphrased a bit, but he was right. Sitting in Seiza is still painfull but it's a nice pain and I don't fight it anymore.

For the rest, eventually (in a few days or weeks or months) Aikido will become less painfull or even positively pleasant. You won't notice the change, but one day you'll suddenly stop and think, "Hey, didn't this used to hurt?".

Pete 08-10-2000 06:49 AM

Firstly, welcome to the wonderful world of Aikido!!

I too am a relative newbie (4.5 months now!)who had done almost no real exercise and my instructors recommended a hot bath after the lesson to help warm the muscles and loosen them again.

Good thing is though, that the more you practice the less the aches get you!!

I think after 3 or 4 weeks my aches didn't seem noticeable the day or so after!!

chillzATL 08-10-2000 07:40 AM

Either stretch out good the night after class and the next morning or do some other exercise the next day to get the blood flowing. The aches and pains will pass soon enough though. Welcome, glad to hear you are enjoying it so far.

Nick 08-10-2000 10:39 AM

I think the pain also comes more with surprise. The first time my sensei did nikyo on me (I think my second or third class) I could barely see straight. I also think this surprise is helpful in a fight. Someone throws a punch at Little Joe Aikidoka, they expect it to be blocked and countered, in which they can counter. Few attackers expect being thrown off balance and slammed to the ground (or given a nikyo, ude-osae, or something equally unpleasent).

-Nick

Nick 08-10-2000 10:39 AM

I think the pain also comes more with surprise. The first time my sensei did nikyo on me (I think my second or third class) I could barely see straight. I also think this surprise is helpful in a fight. Someone throws a punch at Little Joe Aikidoka, they expect it to be blocked and countered, in which they can counter. Few attackers expect being thrown off balance and slammed to the ground (or given a nikyo, ude-osae, or something equally unpleasent).

"Aikido is non-resistance. As it does not resist, it is always victorious."

-Nick

akiy 08-10-2000 01:38 PM

Quote:

chillzATL wrote:
Either stretch out good the night after class and the next morning or do some other exercise the next day to get the blood flowing.
Stretching for a while (five to ten minutes) right after training while you're still warmed up helps quite a bit -- moreso than stretching when you get home, I believe...

-- Jun

adriangan 08-11-2000 06:02 AM

just don't overdo it
 
I agree with the others that stretching helps in minimizing the pain during practice, just one piece of advice: don't overdo your stretches, I've seen people who tried to push their bodies to the limit and they end up pulling a muscle, twisting/over-rotating something, etc.

Always exercise caution.


-Adrian

Max Factor 08-15-2000 06:46 AM

pain
 
I my three years i have yet to see pain go away but one thing i have seen is pain help people get better.


pain come in 3 waves
1.new pain
2.pain threshold
3.learning pain

1. new pain
this is were your body learns about the new pain of locks throughs etc..

2. pain threshold
as you become more adapted to the pain you find out just how much you body is willing to take..

3. learning pain
if it hurts somthing went wrong
and you fix it.



if anyone has more to add to any of these please feel free i would like to know thoughts???


Nate


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