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ronmar 03-31-2002 04:35 AM

Question about judo and aikido
 
Hi, I'm new to this forum and to be honest have very little aikido experience, although I'm thinking of giving it a serious go.
I've been involved with judo for a long time and was wondering if there is anyone else who has come to aikido from judo. If so I would be interested to hear how they coped with the transition. Is previous experience in judo helpful when learning aikido or does it hinder development? How do people feel the two compare in terms of compatability for use together? Do people find that they retain their enthusiasm for judo after starting aikido? Does anyone have an opinion on the general combat effectiveness of judo compared to aikido. BTW, I come from a more sport oriented judo club.
Thanks

Jorx 03-31-2002 06:15 AM

You knoe ukemi very well already. And that's a huge plus when starting Aikido. Also SOME techniques are similar. I mean both developed from jujitsu. My father (a practioner as well) once said that Aikido and Judo are somewhat brothers - like Earth and Venus are sisters:P So when great Master Kano formed Judo he took some things from jujitsu and dropped other things, O'Sensei Ueshiba dropped the things which were taken into judo and took the things what weren't in there. The only minus which could be is that you are going to have a little more hard time on learning the stances and the footwork, also using even more opponents power (as for example in koshinage, the hipthrow which is in judo as well but the essence of the throw is different:)
And you have know already how your body works (huge plus) you know how to attack and grab (huge plus) so happening to know judo before taking up aikido is definitely an advatnage not a disadvatnage.

Jorgen
Estonia

Bruce Baker 04-04-2002 06:08 PM

Judo and Aikido
 
You are really gonna have fun in Aikido.

I don't think I know anyone who stays with Judo who doesn't meet that one person who has to throw you with muscle instead of letting the natural motion be directed to a safe fall ... OUCH!

There will a lot less muscling, and more riding the wave of energy in Aikido. You might have to be a little more gentle with locks and manipulations, they are used more to divert attention into movement then to force movement from muscular resistant partners?

Tell you what. After you try a couple of classes, and get the feel of Aikido, check back and add to this thread.

We are all interested in what you think the differences are after those classes? Thanks.

PeterR 04-04-2002 08:11 PM

I can only suggest two articles by Kenji Tomiki (way up there in both Judo and Aikido)

http://www.tomiki.org/article_tomiki_jujutsu.html
http://www.tomiki.org/article_tomiki_judo.html

Creature_of_the_id 04-05-2002 07:11 AM

The association I train with was started up by Andre Noquet, who reached 8th dan in aikido.

he trained in Judo for many years, heard about O'sensei and went to train with him. he became Uchi deshi and trained under O'sensei for a long time. (cant remember how long :p)

he returned to france and found his judoka friends thought he had gone soft, as many of the principles that he had been taught changed his perspective of life. They soon learned differently. I didnt go back to judo.

The, now, head of our association started in judo also. I think he switched to aikido after may years, met Master Noquet and trained under him. he never went back to judo either.

there are alot of people that have done it (it just so happens that two of the people who made the switch are people that I have a great deal of respect for). and i am sure that the switch has gone the other way

but, saying all of this... other people I know that have switched from judo to aikido, their main reason for changing is judo related injury that they do not think will be aggrivated by aikido. usually their knees :(

main thing is, judo will help your aikido ukemi, which is initially one of the most difficult things for a begginer to learn I have found.
you have that right and your aikido is great fun as you can really experience the techniques early on

enough babble from me :p


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