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Zach Trent 08-13-2008 02:55 PM

How many dojos are in Israel?
 
Hi guys! Sorry to ask so many Middle East questions, but I'm doing some research and I'm ignorant :p

In doing a dojo search I see there are 39 dojos in Israel, but I wonder if anyone with a handy Israeli Yellowpages could confirm that?

Now- 39 is nothing to sneeze at when you consider that Israel and Vermont (U.S.) are similar geographically in size, and VT only shows 9 dojos :) Though, Russia is only showing 37, which makes me think that maybe someone in the Motherland is not registering on this site.

Anywho, does anyone have a sense of whether 39 is right on the money? I wonder if anyone has ever done a per-capita Aikido dojo study...and what inferences might be made from said study...

Thanks all and thanks Jun for creating this awesome database! I will have to donate soon for this remarkable feature. I sure wish I could buy an AikiWeb hoody to say thanks too! ;)

Peace everyone,

Zach

Shany 08-14-2008 01:07 AM

Re: How many dojos are in Israel?
 
Hmmm I Don't know how many are there actually..
My Dojo has 6 branches that I know of in Israel

http://www.aikidoista.co.il/

Amir Krause 08-14-2008 01:10 AM

Re: How many dojos are in Israel?
 
Can you read & write Hebrew ? If you can I can give you a few links (the place to start is the tapuz M.A. forums: Traditional Martial Arts and Martial Arts.

You should also mention how do you count the Dojos:
- Do you count only Aikikai affiliated Dojos?
In the following list (http://www.tapuz.co.il/blog/viewEntr...EntryId=605838) I counted ~50 such dojos (I found at least two double entries - same teacher with two adjacent places or two teachers in the same place).
Unfortunatly, I am not sure the list is up to date, some dojos might not be active and other new ones might not be listed.

There is a group of Aikido Dojos affliated to ISTA in the following listhttp://www.aikidoista.co.il/61495/heb_dojos I counted 11 dojos. I believe Shany http://www.aikiweb.com/forums/member.php?u=13399 indicated she is training there.

I also know of a strong Yoshinkan group of Dojos. In here I found 4 dojos, I believe there should be at least a fifth.

I know of one Shodokan \ Tomiki Aikido Yundasha who recently returned to Israel from Japan. to the best of my knowledge, he did not open a dojo (yet?) .

I practice Korindo Aikido, currently we have 3 active dojos in Israel.

So, in 15 minutes of informed searching I found slightly less then 70 dojos. I believe a real serious search would have brought up at least another 5 if not 10-15 dojos, which are not affiliated to anyone and do not have strong internet representation.

I guess the data base in AikiWeb is still far from complete, I would be particularly careful of relaying on it when looking at non-English speaking countries.

Hope this helps
Amir

Shany 08-14-2008 01:30 AM

Re: How many dojos are in Israel?
 
amir, im a he not a she :) :)

Amir Krause 08-14-2008 02:06 AM

Re: How many dojos are in Israel?
 
Quote:

Shany Golan wrote: (Post 213607)
amir, im a he not a she :) :)

Oops, Sory

Zach Trent 08-14-2008 06:50 AM

Re: How many dojos are in Israel?
 
Amir and Shany, thank you greatly for this information. I cannot read or write Hebrew, so there is no way I could have figured this out! Daniel R. sent me some info too- thanks!

This will be a great help for my research! Thank you all.

I have been doing some digging and I think it is fascinating that Israel, with a population of roughly 7 Million has (potentially, given what information I have) 20 to 25 more dojos that New Jersey, a U.S. state with a population of 9 million and of comparable size.

Not sure what to make of it....but I think it is cool info. :)

Amir Krause 08-14-2008 06:55 AM

Re: How many dojos are in Israel?
 
Zach

Be careful - all the info I gave you is only about Hebrew speaking Dojos.
I am not sure at all about Dojos run by Arab Israeli for Arabs ( and therefore published and run only in Arabic). I do not know if such Aikido Dojos exist ( I know in Karate there is more then one), and from my cursory check, none of the dojos I counted belongs in this category.

Same might be true for Jewish immigrants from Russia.

Amir

P.S.
I know of one Korindo Aikido Dojo in Russia, is it in your counts, or are you going to miss lots of Dojos there too?

akiy 08-14-2008 08:28 AM

Re: How many dojos are in Israel?
 
Hi folks,

If you know of any dojo which are not in the AikiWeb aikido dojo search engine, please submit them into the database. Doing so will help countless other aikido folks as well as those people who may be just getting interested in aikido.

The AikiWeb aikido dojo search engine is here:

http://www.aikiweb.com/search/

The submission form for the above is here:

http://www.aikiweb.com/search/submit.html

Thanks,

-- Jun

Shany 08-14-2008 03:44 PM

Re: How many dojos are in Israel?
 
Ah yes, there is also 3 more I know of,

1 dojo in Tel Aviv, by Miles Kessler, I met him, amazing person! his a direct student of morihiro saito! http://www.integralaikido.org/

two other aikido dojo are in Jerusalem / Rishon le zion, unfortunately i don't have their websites.

Amir Krause 08-17-2008 12:41 AM

Re: How many dojos are in Israel?
 
Quote:

Jun Akiyama wrote: (Post 213623)
Hi folks,

If you know of any dojo which are not in the AikiWeb aikido dojo search engine, please submit them into the database. Doing so will help countless other aikido folks as well as those people who may be just getting interested in aikido.

The AikiWeb aikido dojo search engine is here:

http://www.aikiweb.com/search/

The submission form for the above is here:

http://www.aikiweb.com/search/submit.html

Thanks,

-- Jun

Hi Jun

Unfortunatly, I am not the sensei of any of the dojos I listed. Only a vetran member of one and friend of the sensei of another 2 (the Korindo Aikido Dojo's).

For almost all of the rest, I do not even know the teacher. I just found them listed in hebrew sites related to Martial Arts or hobbies.

Quote:

Shany Golan wrote: (Post 213646)
Ah yes, there is also 3 more I know of,

1 dojo in Tel Aviv, by Miles Kessler, I met him, amazing person! his a direct student of morihiro saito! http://www.integralaikido.org/

two other aikido dojo are in Jerusalem / Rishon le zion, unfortunately i don't have their websites.

Hi Shany,

Miles Kessler dojo is listed in the Aikikai dojo list (he has 2 entries in fact).
In Rishon le zion I know of about 4-5 dojos (including my Sensei's) and all of them were listed and counted for. In Jerusalem there were several dojos in the lists.

So it should not change the count.

Amir

KamiKaze_Evolution 08-17-2008 04:24 AM

Re: How many dojos are in Israel?
 
http://www.aikido.org.il/frame-1.htm

and another one

Aikido Yoshinkan Israel
1: Tel-aviv Dizingof center 2: Petach Tikva (kats 3t) Tel: 052-3-286128

Tim Griffiths 08-18-2008 01:55 AM

Re: How many dojos are in Israel?
 
In the calculation, don't forget that a large part of Israel is desert and underpopulated both with people and dojos. I think its fair to say that unless you live in the middle of nowhere, in Israel you're never more than 30 mins drive from a dojo (unless you count Tel Aviv rush hour traffic).

(Then I had to move to China: a taxi, train, subway and 2.5 hours from the nearest) *sigh*

zivk 08-20-2008 06:37 AM

Re: How many dojos are in Israel?
 
First Zach, let me tell you how thrilled I was to visit the aikiweb site and find your question listed under the active forum threads. I was even more delighted to find out that an aikido practitioner from another country is the one interested. The local aikido community here in Israel is relatively small but quite active.
Now to the question discussed. Amir Krause counted most of the dojos in Israel, but thorough as Amir is, somehow he failed to mention the Seidokan affiliated dojos in Israel.
There are at least 5 such dojos:
2 in Jerusalem, 1 in Maa'le Ha-chamisha, 1 in Rishon Le-zion and 1 in Tel Aviv.
Some info regarding these dojos may be found in this link.

I hope all the information gathered here provides a suitable answer to your question. And... if by any chance you happen to visit Israel, you are more than welcome to visit the dojo I practice, in Holon, not far from Tel-Aviv.

Amir Krause 08-21-2008 01:43 AM

Re: How many dojos are in Israel?
 
Quote:

Ziv Klausner wrote: (Post 214038)
First Zach, let me tell you how thrilled I was to visit the aikiweb site and find your question listed under the active forum threads. I was even more delighted to find out that an aikido practitioner from another country is the one interested. The local aikido community here in Israel is relatively small but quite active.
Now to the question discussed. Amir Krause counted most of the dojos in Israel, but thorough as Amir is, somehow he failed to mention the Seidokan affiliated dojos in Israel.
There are at least 5 such dojos:
2 in Jerusalem, 1 in Maa'le Ha-chamisha, 1 in Rishon Le-zion and 1 in Tel Aviv.
Some info regarding these dojos may be found in this link.

I hope all the information gathered here provides a suitable answer to your question. And... if by any chance you happen to visit Israel, you are more than welcome to visit the dojo I practice, in Holon, not far from Tel-Aviv.

Oops, thought you were in the Aikikai list (and now found out I was wrong).

This brought me to think of the Ki-aikido association too, I seem to recall hearing they have one dojo in Israel around Aco, but I could not find any mention of it.

Zach, if you know of other associations, mention them and we can check.

Good luck with your research (could you give some more details about it?).
Amir

zivk 08-21-2008 07:51 AM

Re: How many dojos are in Israel?
 
Quote:

Amir Krause wrote: (Post 214116)
Oops, thought you were in the Aikikai list (and now found out I was wrong).

The dojo I practice in (Do-gen-do) in Holon is an Aikikai dojo. Yet again, I thought you were trying to list all the Aikido dojos in Israel, so I laid a hand.

Quote:

Amir Krause wrote: (Post 214116)
This brought me to think of the Ki-aikido association too, I seem to recall hearing they have one dojo in Israel around Aco, but I could not find any mention of it.

Amir, maybe you're referring to the kokikai dojo in Kiriat Mozkin? In that case, here's a link to their web site.

Amir Krause 08-24-2008 07:56 AM

Re: How many dojos are in Israel?
 
Quote:

Ziv Klausner wrote: (Post 214134)
The dojo I practice in (Do-gen-do) in Holon is an Aikikai dojo. Yet again, I thought you were trying to list all the Aikido dojos in Israel, so I laid a hand.

That was Zach request, me too am just trying to lend a hand.

Quote:

Amir, maybe you're referring to the kokikai dojo in Kiriat Mozkin? In that case, here's a link to their web site.
Possibly, as I said, I only remembered someone mentioned them once. I guess they are not in the Aikikai list (did not check).

Amir


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