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AikiWeb System 01-28-2008 11:15 AM

Poll: Do you think studying aikido can allow people to develop "supernatural" powers?
 
AikiWeb Poll for the week of January 27, 2008:

Do you think studying aikido can allow people to develop "supernatural" powers?
  • I don't do aikido
  • Yes
  • No
Here are the current results.

Cast your vote at the top right of this page.

Will Prusner 01-28-2008 12:36 PM

Re: Poll: Do you think studying aikido can allow people to develop "supernatural" pow
 
This is from Merriam-Webster:

Main Entry: supernatural
Function: adjective

1: of or relating to an order of existence beyond the visible observable universe; especially : of or relating to God or a god, demigod, spirit, or devil.
2 a: departing from what is usual or normal especially so as to appear to transcend the laws of nature
b: attributed to an invisible agent (as a ghost or spirit)

I think the answer to the poll is closely linked to how you define the term, supernatural.

Mark Uttech 01-29-2008 02:37 AM

Re: Poll: Do you think studying aikido can allow people to develop "supernatural" pow
 
I am sure that those folks who voted 'yes' like myself, thought along the lines of 'zanshin', 'extending ki', and so forth. These things can seem supernatural to the uninitiated. At the same time, these phenomena are not 'tricks', but a true benefit of practice.

In gassho,

Mark

SeiserL 01-29-2008 06:56 AM

Re: Poll: Do you think studying aikido can allow people to develop "supernatural" pow
 
IMHO, as long as they are natural, they can be developed. But, as soon as you think of them as super you lose them. Aikido is only the tool.

Lyle Bogin 01-29-2008 05:09 PM

Re: Poll: Do you think studying aikido can allow people to develop "supernatural" pow
 
Yeah, "aikido powers" are super and natural, but not so supernatural.

xuzen 01-30-2008 01:34 AM

Re: Poll: Do you think studying aikido can allow people to develop "supernatural" pow
 
My Aikido gave me a very super healthy cardio-vascular system from the endless getting up from the mats.

My aikido also gave me super muscular legs, from the countless hours of doing kihon dosa and suawri-waza techniques.

Boon.

Don 01-30-2008 11:04 AM

Re: Poll: Do you think studying aikido can allow people to develop "supernatural" pow
 
Arthur C. Clarke (of "2001 A Space Odyessy" and other great sci-fi books fame) said

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic".

The same can be applied to anyone sufficiently trained and skilled in anything that mere mortals have not been trained in.

Its all physics and your ability to effortlessly and flawlessly execute the technique.....

I'll reserve supernatural for God, and since none of us are, then it ain't supernatural.

kironin 01-30-2008 04:04 PM

Re: Poll: Do you think studying aikido can allow people to develop "supernatural" pow
 
Absolutely NO.

allow people to develop "delusions" - maybe.

aikidoc 01-30-2008 04:32 PM

Re: Poll: Do you think studying aikido can allow people to develop "supernatural" pow
 
To me if you can teach it, it is not supernatural.

mriehle 01-31-2008 06:13 PM

Re: Poll: Do you think studying aikido can allow people to develop "supernatural" pow
 
There's a lot of stuff in Aikido that looks really impressive, actually works and can appear supernatural to someone who isn't as well trained.

But it ain't magic. It's physics. Well, and timing and sometimes a bit of psychology.

I think sometimes there is something even beyond those things in 'ki', but I still wouldn't call it supernatural. Beyond our natural perception, perhaps, but how many of us can perceive molecules moving about us? So, does that make molecules supernatural?

So, even if ki is more than physics, timing and psychology (and I'm not convinced it is), I still wouldn't call it supernatural.

Another sci-fi writer who also subscribed to Arthur C. Clarke's idea about technology and magic went on to say, "Supernatural is a null word".

siwilson 02-01-2008 03:12 PM

Re: Poll: Do you think studying aikido can allow people to develop "supernatural" pow
 
Well...

AikiWeb has finally managed to have the most rediculous poll EVER!!!!!

[Shakes head and wonders if anyone remembers that it is all just physics!]

siwilson 02-01-2008 03:13 PM

Re: Poll: Do you think studying aikido can allow people to develop "supernatural" pow
 
Must read all posts!

Cheers Michael!

:P

Aiki Teacher 02-01-2008 08:37 PM

Re: Poll: Do you think studying aikido can allow people to develop "supernatural" pow
 
A week after I became a shodan, I flew!

But then Kato sensei was the motivating force!

But I did fly:D

dps 02-02-2008 05:57 AM

Re: Poll: Do you think studying aikido can allow people to develop "supernatural" pow
 
Quote:

Mark Uttech wrote: (Post 198151)
. These things can seem supernatural to the uninitiated. At the same time, these phenomena are not 'tricks', but a true benefit of practice.

Exactly.
O'Sensei lived 86 years of which over 70 of these were dedicated to practicing. His techniques appeared to be supernatural but were perfectly natural to him.

David


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