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yosushi 05-17-2007 06:45 PM

Reanimation techniques
 
Hi -

Is there reanimation techniques taught in aikido dojos ?
To help a student who has fainted, or who is nose-bleeding,
or put back a shoulder, ... ? Is that part of advanced kiatsu classes ?
I`m not speaking of first aid training that some teachers have to take in some countries, to be a teacher (France for example ),
I`m speaking of aikido-related or martial art-related techniques.

In ki aikido school, I have seen senior sensei with 40+ years of experience do some reanimations.

Is that systematically taught, as a kiatsu or teacher class maybe, in your dojos ?
I can imagine this would be helpful to teachers.
I have received kiatsu from some of my teachers to relieve pain and it helped every time.

Best regards

Haowen Chan 05-17-2007 06:50 PM

Re: Reanimation techniques
 
You mean in 40 years I can be just like this guy? Awesome! Finally, the secret of aikido is out!


Laurel Seacord 05-17-2007 07:35 PM

Re: Reanimation techniques
 
The resuscitation techniques are called "kappou" in Japanese. Our teacher has mentioned that he learned these techniques, but I have never seen him teach them to anyone in the regular classes. Maybe this is taught to instructors? One kappou technique is described in Tohei-sensei's book "Kiatsu" (page 62).

Kappou are from the judo tradition to help people recover from choke holds. Here is a link with a little more information: http://www.fightingarts.com/reading/article.php?id=144

bkedelen 05-17-2007 09:59 PM

Re: Reanimation techniques
 
Ikeda sensei has a few such techniques that he says are an Ikeda family tradition. The one I remember specifically is his nosebleed abatement technique.

Chuck Clark 05-17-2007 10:51 PM

Re: Reanimation techniques
 
Cayenne pepper on your finger up the nose works great for nosebleeds. Seriously...

Murgen 05-21-2007 07:53 PM

Re: Reanimation techniques
 
Yes, I've had kiatsu done on me after a bad injury by my sensei. I've even had it applied to my collar bone when it broke. I didn't realize it was broken at the time or I wouldn't have allowed kiatsu to be done on it. I think it depends on where the fracture occurs as to how painful it is so I can't say for sure it was the kiatsu that helped or not. I was at home taking a shower without any pain, when I realized......the collar bone should not be moving like that. Turns out it was a complete fracture when they did the X-rays in the ER. Go figure. The doctor was looking at me like I was a freak of nature.

At the end of our all male class we used to do kiatsu massage for 15 minutes. I think we stopped doing that because we got some single women and a teenage girl who joined the class and sensei didn't want them to feel uncomfortable. Almost positive that is why we stopped it. I miss it. Seemed to really help.

SeiserL 05-22-2007 05:29 AM

Re: Reanimation techniques
 
Quote:

Chuck Clark wrote: (Post 178656)
Cayenne pepper on your finger up the nose works great for nosebleeds. Seriously...

OUCH OUCH OUCH
SNEEZE SNEEZE SNEEZE
It would reanimate me for sure, in running away.
WOW

tedehara 05-22-2007 10:29 AM

Re: Reanimation techniques
 
Quote:

Lionel Moulas wrote: (Post 178639)
Hi -

...In ki aikido school, I have seen senior sensei with 40+ years of experience do some reanimations.

Is that systematically taught, as a kiatsu or teacher class maybe, in your dojos ?
I can imagine this would be helpful to teachers.
I have received kiatsu from some of my teachers to relieve pain and it helped every time.

Best regards

Kiatsu is a discipline of ki development. If you really want to understand it, there are certified courses that takes several years to complete. Sometimes kiatsu is introduced along with other ways of ki development in Ki Society dojos.

It's not unusual for martial artists to know the healing aspect of the human body. Advanced judo students learn how to revive a person after learning how to choke them out. Traditionally martial artists have been the village bone setters.

Now treating dislocations are done by surgeons. Today if you were to do bone setting, you could be sued for practicing medicine without a license.


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