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Poll: How realistic is doing a physically effective aikido technique with only one finger?
AikiWeb Poll for the week of February 18, 2007:
How realistic is doing a physically effective aikido technique with only one finger?
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Re: Poll: How realistic is doing a physically effective aikido technique with only one finger?
Not at all realistic. It takes the whole mind/body system .... the connection can be achieved and maintained through one finger though.
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Re: Poll: How realistic is doing a physically effective aikido technique with only one finger?
Chuck Clark said:
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I agree with Mr. Clark about connection via one finger, but voted 'completely realistic'. I read the question to mean 'using only one's finger' rather than assuming it implied a finger wriggling detached on the mat. :) As an example - perform a good irimi from shomen uchi and step fully behind uke - hook the collar of their gi at the neck and bend your knees. If you have their balance it works nicely (as I'm sure everyone knows) dave |
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For one who practices regularly, focus can be directed to any body part ( especially if it is a pivot-point). A finger or other focal point, carefully placed ( eye, throat, gi (as above), ), can direct uki anywhere.
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No one else here trains in boogerminage? Sorry, it's after 1AM, and I haven't posted in oh so long. Couldn't resist.
michael. |
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A poining or punching finger is very effective, if you know where to put it.
We had some exercises doing an ikkyo with only the two pointerfingers to lead uke. I tried and it was just rubbish. I felt an it work astonishingly well, I saw (Mitsugi Saotome) and just the two fingers made the strong French 6th dan look like a fool. my 2 cts Dirk |
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Depends whose using the finger.
I remember an excruciating Nikkyo being applied to me with a finger of each hand by the late Doshu. 20 years later I still can't do it. |
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Co-operative practice isn't "realistic" or "effective" to use the words in the polled question. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out that an uncooperative individual isn't going to freely allow any technique let alone one applied with just one finger (even with one on each hand). |
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I have felt this from a number of people in the past and I guarantee you that I attack with intent to not be "cooperative". When I'm uke with anyone they have to earn the waza and I appreciate the return favor. Best regards, |
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The only time I've experienced one-finger submission was as osae-waza, with an index finger in that nasty little spot below the Adam's apple. Nage had to get me onto the floor in the first place with more than one finger though.
Clark Sensei, you may not wish to discuss it due to your USMC code of honor, but were there any major similarities between Marine combat training and Aikiwaza? Mike, I'm still laughing about the booger joke...thank you for that. Drew |
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You have got to be kidding... Not at all realistic :grr:
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I interpreted the question to refer to intances wherein uke grabs the index finger of nage - and nage responds with ikkyo. I've done it that way lots, but never thought anyone was advocating that approach as anything other than a training exercise (it's pretty obvious pretty quickly when you're leading with just your finger and you're doing it wrong). So, my first thought was, no, it's not realistic at all. BUT, should someone grab your index finger (I'm immediately reminded of 3rd grade fart jokes "here! pull my finger!") I guess you don't have any choice now do you? Whaddarya going to do? Give up because your attacker has used a stupid attack? "I'm sorry, please release my finger and utilize a serious attack." So, I changed my answer to positive.
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In answer to your question, yes, there are a number of similarities between USMC combat training and Aikiwaza. Sincerely, |
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Drew |
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It can be done, but don't ask me to demonstrate it.:D
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