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MrIggy 09-12-2020 07:05 AM

The Judoka who defeated Kyuzo Mifune, Sokaku Takeda & Morihei Ueshiba : Kenpachi Murai
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axhDH-DWefk

Anybody know if any of the information in the video is true or just myth?

Ellis Amdur 09-12-2020 11:33 AM

Re: The Judoka who defeated Kyuzo Mifune, Sokaku Takeda & Morihei Ueshiba : Kenpachi Murai
 
The readily available documents are sparse. Allegedly, there was a newspaper account of Murai's encounter with Takeda, but the main source is a rather expensive book by Okuyama Ryuho of Hakko-ryu (Murai oddly became a teacher of this Daito-ryu offshoot after WWII). Surely, Okuyama had his own axe to grind - but maybe it's all true.

There are no additional readily available sources in Japanese on the internet - just a repetition of the same accounts, with no further detail. There is little information on Murai Kenpachi period.

As for Mifune and Murai, what does this mean, really? A much bigger, highly skilled judoka beat a smaller, older highly skilled judoka in randori?

A friend of mine is Japan is checking out if there is any more information on Murai - he sounds like a fascinating individual.

MrIggy 09-12-2020 12:07 PM

Re: The Judoka who defeated Kyuzo Mifune, Sokaku Takeda & Morihei Ueshiba : Kenpachi Murai
 
Quote:

Ellis Amdur wrote: (Post 355014)
The readily available documents are sparse. Allegedly, there was a newspaper account of Murai's encounter with Takeda, but the main source is a rather expensive book by Okuyama Ryuho of Hakko-ryu (Murai oddly became a teacher of this Daito-ryu offshoot after WWII). Surely, Okuyama had his own axe to grind - but maybe it's all true.

There are no additional readily available sources in Japanese on the internet - just a repetition of the same accounts, with no further detail. There is little information on Murai Kenpachi period.

As for Mifune and Murai, what does this mean, really? A much bigger, highly skilled judoka beat a smaller, older highly skilled judoka in randori?

A friend of mine is Japan is checking out if there is any more information on Murai - he sounds like a fascinating individual.

As always with the Japanese martial artists...

Or was created to sound like a fascinating person. Who knows by this point.


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