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StefanHultberg 07-06-2020 03:38 AM

31 kata kumi jo - move 7&8
 
Which sort of attack lies behind moves 7 & 8 in the 31 kata kumi jo? I have heard several bids. Any opinions?

When this attack from behind is considered, how should one's movement in move 7 be in order to avoid the attack and deal with the new attacker before turning back to the original one?

All the best

Stefan Hultberg

Peter Goldsbury 07-09-2020 07:11 PM

Re: 31 kata kumi jo - move 7&8
 
Hello Stefan,

Well, perhaps the users of AikiWeb are not 31 kumi-jo addicts. Have you compared the moves here with the relevant moves in the kumi-tachi sequence?

StefanHultberg 07-15-2020 01:47 AM

Re: 31 kata kumi jo - move 7&8
 
Quote:

Peter A Goldsbury wrote: (Post 354926)
Hello Stefan,

Well, perhaps the users of AikiWeb are not 31 kumi-jo addicts. Have you compared the moves here with the relevant moves in the kumi-tachi sequence?

Hah, it appears not. Well, bonum est :)

In relation to your question I have put in all possible attacks with ken and jo and tried different approaches. Pretty simple with “standard” tsuki and uchi, but needs some adjustment in relation to the hasso gaeshi and katate series. I was just interested to hear if anybody had any idea what would be the “formal” attack from uchi no. 2 :). I adore the 31-kata, so many possibilities. At the moment me and my buddies are having much interest and variety when playing around with the kumi jo/ken tai jo :)

Best regards, be well & stay safe :)

Stefan

StefanHultberg 07-15-2020 09:26 AM

Re: 31 kata kumi jo - move 7&8
 
Quote:

Stefan Hultberg wrote: (Post 354931)
Hah, it appears not. Well, bonum est :)

In relation to your question I have put in all possible attacks with ken and jo and tried different approaches. Pretty simple with "standard" tsuki and uchi, but needs some adjustment in relation to the hasso gaeshi and katate series. I was just interested to hear if anybody had any idea what would be the "formal" attack from uchi no. 2 :). I adore the 31-kata, so many possibilities. At the moment me and my buddies are having much interest and variety when playing around with the kumi jo/ken tai jo :)

Best regards, be well & stay safe :)

Stefan

Just had some very interesting input from Ethan Sensei. Seems there are a few things I have not really considered. Will investigate further :)

Peter Goldsbury 07-15-2020 01:09 PM

Re: 31 kata kumi jo - move 7&8
 
Quote:

Stefan Hultberg wrote: (Post 354932)
Just had some very interesting input from Ethan Sensei. Seems there are a few things I have not really considered. Will investigate further :)

Well, Ethan came here and did a 31-kumi-jo seminar recently and it was noted by students that I do it slightly differently. I learned it from a Saito serminar here in Hiroshima quite a few years ago. PAG

StefanHultberg 07-19-2020 02:48 AM

Re: 31 kata kumi jo - move 7&8
 
Quote:

Peter A Goldsbury wrote: (Post 354933)
Well, Ethan came here and did a 31-kumi-jo seminar recently and it was noted by students that I do it slightly differently. I learned it from a Saito serminar here in Hiroshima quite a few years ago. PAG

I can believe it, so many variation - big and small. Fascinating diveristy and potential.

Often have I heard Ethan Sensei saying: "there are many right ways of doing things". Wonderful wisdom!

All the best

Stefan


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