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Unregistered 01-05-2003 01:21 AM

Aikido VS supervillans???
 
Hi all,

I was just wondering how well you think Aikido would work against supervillans such as Sabertooth, Magneto or the Juggernaut from x-men or the green goblin or dr octopus from spiderman?
Do you think it would be effective if you were attacked by one of these supervillans in the street?

p.s. yes I am being sarcastic.

shihonage 01-05-2003 05:21 AM

Well if you managed to knock the Green Goblin off his skateboard as he is grabbing you, and then as you're falling down, deliver a tremendous punch through the hole in his mask, before he beats the shit out of you with his super-powered mechanical suit, then you will most likely knock him out, take the suit, and then you'll stand a much better chance against the rest of the guys.

Thank you, I'll be here till Tuesday, try the veal.

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Thalib 01-05-2003 09:26 AM

One question... could I be a superhero that knows Aikido? So at least I could be at least under par with these superfreaks.

Grasshopper 01-17-2003 01:25 PM

Don't know about these fancy American type supervillans, but the title character from the manga and anime <i>Rurouni Kenshin</i> whose swordsmanship seems to apply aikido techniques to defeat his enemies...

Being rather short and slight, Kenshin relies on his God-like speed to get himself off the line of his enemies' attacks, and only fights to subdue his opponents, not to kill.

Come to think of it, isn't it more cruel to leave your opponents - who relied on their mad killing skillz to support themselves - crippled and forever unable to wield a sword again than to mercifully put them out of their misery? :D

Yoroshiku!

Mike 01-23-2003 11:57 AM

Aikido should be effective on the ones that are mostlly human, like Batman, Magnito, Lex Luther, or The Punisher, even the Invisable Woman but you'd only be able to use Ki to find her. Mr. Fantastic would have a large advantage as he basicaly has no bones or joints, and he may be able to move his center making it dificult to effect. Anything involving grabing wouldn't work on Shadowcat as she's intangable, but you could irimi right through her. Aikido would work fine on Nightcralwer until he teleported behind you. It is posable that the super strong like Jugernaut and Kingpin still have the same physical range of motion and pressure points, so Aikido would work if size realy doesn't mater. You could develop an Aikido to deal with Alien lifeforms, but it may be very diferant than what you would use on an earthling. Just as a side note, Iceman could have great unbendable arm, he can turn it into a block of ice....

This was fun.... hehehe

Eila Saarni 02-16-2003 11:44 AM

What about Vicious from Cowboy Bebop?? he's pretty evil ;) and he as a katana ;)

Mark Burns 02-21-2003 09:35 PM

what if a they taught a monkey to do aikido.

you know! like that chimp who does kempo karate

j0nharris 02-22-2003 07:38 PM

Quote:

Mark Burns wrote:
what if a they taught a monkey to do aikido.

you know! like that chimp who does kempo karate

You mean Chuck Norris??:D

Mark Burns 02-23-2003 12:38 PM

hehehe!

jducusin 02-27-2003 11:46 PM

On the more serious side of this thread (if there ever was one)---I'm glad you mentioned Rurouni Kenshin, Diana! It's one of my all-time favourite animes, particularly because of how the character of Kenshin exemplifies the spirit of Aikido---not only in his swordsmanship, but in his dialogue with his enemies. In a lot of cases, he initially refrains from fighting in favour of first trying to reason with his attackers to resolve the situation without violence.

And of course there's his reverse-blade sword, the sakabatou, which is only sharp on the inside while being blunt on the outside to merely subdue the bad guys as you mentioned. Perhaps I'm reading too much into it, but I've always had a strong feeling that the sakabatou was a symbol for the penance he was doing for having once been a ruthless killer. There is obviously a large risk one takes in fighting with the cutting edge of the sword facing oneself; by willingly taking this risk, it seems as though Kenshin is turning pain unto himself internally instead of onto others. This seems to manifest later in the series when you hear other main characters say that he's always taking everything upon his own shoulders instead of sharing the burden with them.

But I digress...

On a lighter note, I'm still having a good chuckle about "Chimp Norris".

Gregafer 03-03-2003 07:42 PM

another good anime is trigun. in one episode the main character Vash takes off his shirt to reveal the hiddeous scarring he endures for attempting to leave all his opponents with mere flesh wounds and not kill. although vash uses a gun and I can't find any symbolism in that.

Eila Saarni 03-13-2003 05:28 PM

Oh what about Ryoga from Ranma 1/2? He's mainly open hand combat, kickie 'n punchie style ;) a fun mix ;)

Mark Burns 03-26-2003 10:13 AM

what about motoko chan from love hina. she is a samurai, and tou get to see her boobs

Sven Groot 03-30-2003 07:45 AM

Aoyama Motoko is one of my favourite anime characters!!! Although I have never much cared for such 'fanservice' as you mention.

One of these days I must learn to do a Zanmaken ni-no-tachi. :D In a way it's the ultimate aikido technique, destroying only the evil.

Other than that I'd hardly call Motoko a budoka, much less a samurai. She may have extreme sword-skills, but while her fanclub (those three girls, I forget their names) is always going on about her inner-calm, in truth I think she's way too easily excited, and nearly always overreacts. But then again, that's the purpose of her character! ;)

Abasan 04-21-2003 08:40 PM

Ah fans of Rouronin Kenshin!

Have you seen his 2nd movie? I cried when he died in each others arms.

Actually, Batman, Daredevil and Iron fist are some examples of above average humans who use their extraordinary martial abilities to defeat supervillains.

I have one comic about wolverine and his trip to Japan, where he had met up with his old flame. He got his butt kicked by the old man who wielded a bokken notwithstanding his mutant powers and reflex.

Shelley 06-01-2003 02:36 AM

Mmm I wonder
 
I don't think Aikido will work against Ultimacia or Sephiroth though. In fact, not against ANYONE who can cast Ultima...

Kyri Honigh 06-15-2003 01:35 PM

Hmmmm, your post have really inspired me..Why should I train to defeat mere uke, when iI can rumble with mutants with unbreakable skeleton like Wolvie?Rogue would be a challenge though, because wshe could suck my ki away with a mere touch.Oh and when I tried to AMAKAKERU RYU NO HIRAMEKI my sensei, after the miss the vacuum pulled him to me!!!But then I got put in an ikyo ura...sigh. Sensei: baka deshi!!

Kyri Honigh 06-15-2003 01:36 PM

Damn sorry about the typo's!!!LOl, have been up watching Rurouni kenshin all night!!hehe

Usagi Yojimbo 07-05-2003 01:46 PM

Well, most supervillains/heros would still lay waste to you, Juggernaught is unstoppable by definition so have fun getting squished, Dr. Octopus, yeah right, that many arms? No way you'll get him, Magneto, kiss your metal wrapped butt goodbye, Green Goblin, I've noticed the spiderman ones tend to be incredibly less intelligent (ie, Green Goblin from movie, hated it) so you'd pawn him, only after he hit you a few times though, and it would have to be dramatic fashoin, Punisher, bang, martial arts Punisher, ...only if you're a grand master or something, Hulk, maybe, if you could get proper leverage and grip, Cyclops, def. coky lil piece of...sorry, Nightcrawler, once you got a grip, if you watched out for the tail

Anders Bjonback 07-21-2003 11:36 PM

Mark Burns--Seeing Motoko's boobs? Excuse me? Please recall the episode in which they showed them. The most extreme example I can think of fan serive in Love Hina is in the first episode of Love Hina Again, and that scene was so misplaced and needless it was mindboggling why it was there in the first place. Although I am quite aware it was in the manga as well.

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I can sympathize with watching Rurouni Kenshin all night... I watched all 95 episodes within three weeks while taking 18 credits, six of them Junior level courses as a Freshman.

Another example of an anime with a good aikido message or whatever you want to call it would be the end of Tenchi In Tokyo (I'm sad to say, probably my least favourite of the three tenchi series). He subdues the main villian in a non-violent, constructive manner.

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As to how well aikido would work against super villians... well, first of all, I'd make sure to have a high Charisma modifier and a lot of ranks in diplomacy and intimidation. And then pray to roll a twenty.

Jesse Lee 07-22-2003 10:46 AM

Plastic Man would be a real handful to deal with, with just Aikido. Plus just looking at him, I bet he trains in Aikido, bigtime.

sanosuke 08-10-2003 10:49 PM

daredevil can be the best aikidoka.....

PhilJ 08-11-2003 06:02 AM

Whoa, Plastic Man would be rough. Still, just bring some epoxy, that'd stiffen the ol' boy up. :)

Joezer M. 03-16-2004 09:12 PM

How about the Gramatton Clerics from Equilibrium with their gun-kata? (anybody seen the movie yet?)

Close combat with double hand-cannons and katanas... wonder if aikido would work against that.


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