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Janet Rosen

11-07-2011 08:08 PM

Re: What exactly is an independent dojo?

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David Yap wrote: (Post 296190)

Originally posted during my 10th year in aikido (2003) and thread was revived 3 years later and now. Perhaps it will be resurrected in 2013 to mark my 20th year :D

David, you probably win a special Aikiweb award for being the rare OP on a resurrected thread to still be here! :)

dave9nine

11-08-2011 09:36 AM

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Janet Rosen wrote: (Post 296100)

Why is this being resurrected five years after the OP had a very specific question from three years before that that had been resolved already!?!?

hmm. maybe because the threads remain 'open' and available for people to continue to post and reply to?

Hanna B

11-08-2011 09:45 AM

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Nafis Zahir wrote: (Post 57018)

For example, my old instructor never to anyone about the aikikai blue books, nor would he let you have it. That was because they do not associate with any other dojos or instrctors and do not want their students training anywhere else. They teach that the Iwama style is the only true style and that anything else you learn is garbage. The one thing they do say that I agree with, is that they got tired of all of the politics. When I left, I asked for my blue book. My shodan ranking was marked by the Late Toyoda Shihan with whom the had links to.

What is this blue book? I'm an Aikikai nidan and I've never seen nor heard about blue books. I have a card with my rankings, and I had some kind of membership card I think. Neither is blue.

Michael Hackett

11-08-2011 08:44 PM

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My "blue book" is a passport-like booklet from Aikikai Hombu. It is inscribed "Aikikai International Yudansha Book" on the front and incorporates my Aikikai membership number, my Aikikai Foundation number, and my rank registration number. Mine is signed by Kobayashi Shihan and chopped by Doshu. I also received a membership card from the Aikikai Foundation at the same time.

Hanna B

11-09-2011 12:35 AM

Re: What exactly is an independent dojo?

Okay. I guess I should search it out in my drawers and see if it actually is blue. I remember it as just a folded piece of cardboard, but maybe I'm wrong.

phitruong

11-09-2011 07:01 AM

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Hanna Björk wrote: (Post 296248)

What is this blue book? I'm an Aikikai nidan and I've never seen nor heard about blue books. I have a card with my rankings, and I had some kind of membership card I think. Neither is blue.

when you buy "used" car in the U.S., you go and check the blue book value which shown the estimated worth of the car. same in this case, the blue book is to show you your aikido value over time, which will be less and less over the year, as older car worth less; unless it's a good reliable model or one of those old restored car, then it worth more. :D

ShaderockLouis

11-09-2011 07:19 AM

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I today bid you a good days.I will say,although my major athletic goal is to become best boxer,I trains in some Solidity techniques.I am currently seeking a boxer's licences(hope it's blue)and I hear it's a passport book;also called a bible.Let's celebrate our lovely craft.

grondahl

11-09-2011 07:31 AM

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Hanna Björk wrote: (Post 296324)

Okay. I guess I should search it out in my drawers and see if it actually is blue. I remember it as just a folded piece of cardboard, but maybe I'm wrong.

It looks probably like this (maybe without the presentations of the generations of Ueshiba).
http://www.aikikai.se/dan/diplom.html

Hanna B

11-09-2011 03:45 PM

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Peter Gröndahl wrote: (Post 296337)

It looks probably like this (maybe without the presentations of the generations of Ueshiba).
http://www.aikikai.se/dan/diplom.html

Oh, that's the dan diploma. We're talking about the yudansha card, where the shihan responsible for the grading puts his hanko. (At least I think we are.)

grondahl

11-09-2011 04:12 PM

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Hanna Björk wrote: (Post 296389)

Oh, that's the dan diploma. We're talking about the yudansha card, where the shihan responsible for the grading puts his hanko. (At least I think we are.)

The yudansha card is also in pictures a little scroll down the page.

Hanna B

11-09-2011 10:03 PM

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Rings a bell, maybe. OK so now I know what I should be searching for :)

philipsmith

11-10-2011 05:37 AM

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"They teach that the Iwama style is the only true style and that anything else you learn is garbage. The one thing they do say that I agree with, is that they got tired of all of the politics. "

Just an observation (because I have heard this in different forms from lots of independent dojos) isn't this an oxymoron?

grondahl

11-10-2011 07:33 AM

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Philip Smith wrote: (Post 296432)

Why? Most of the politic quarrels I have encountered in aikido seems to be internal affairs within an organisation or style rather than style vs style.

philipsmith

11-10-2011 10:35 AM

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Peter Gröndahl wrote: (Post 296436)

Why? Most of the politic quarrels I have encountered in aikido seems to be internal affairs within an organisation or style rather than style vs style.

What I was trying to say is that the first sentence is obviously political, but then the dojo says it has become independent to get away from politics.

inframan

11-14-2011 02:05 PM

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Philip Smith wrote: (Post 296432)

I'd say its at least a little ironic.

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