"Aikido is BS"
It's been so quiet here lately that i have been double-dared into making a controversial post.
So suppose a small guy (like me), 5 feet 8 inches tall, 140 lbs, comes up to you and say "Aikido is all BS". How would you convince me otherwise? If you fail to throw me and make me fall in a graceful aikido way, you just confirmed my statement. If you throw me around, I would say, that's no aiki, that's just brute force! Hah take that. So how would you convince me ? Lipyeow |
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I'm about your size so...
What if I hit you in the head with a bokken? That would be Aikido or not? |
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Brilliant, my kind of a guy. Master Ken, you are the bees knees!! Joe |
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Then I would spiral into you with my kua and........no .....that's something else.... Would you just take my word that it works? |
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Jamie,
You haz to post VIDEO. |
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I would refer them to Minoru Mochizuki:
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Best, Chris |
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Chris,
Great story! :D |
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Chris,
That quote is still coming up with funny characters just like every time you post it. . . And I have a new computer! But the main point of that story is in my signature line. I like it. More people should read it carefully. |
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There is even more to that statement than meets the eye. Awareness is a major factor (and it's a cultivated skill) in what makes aiki effective.
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I don't necessarily disagree with that line - but I think that it's an effect rather than a cause - that is, that it's discussing something that may (or may not, depending on how you look at the whole issue) occur through Aiki, but doesn't really describe the process of how to produce that effect. One of my favorite talks with Sam Chin was about the difference between cause and effect, and how they are not necessarily very similar. Best, Chris |
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Chris, loved the story. That is MY O Sensei.
Regarding the OP, I'd say, "Yeah. I just use it to practice the throws and joint locks. Want to see some of them? Come to practice." |
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But at this point I think it's off the mark. There are a number of things stated in that story that point to something that is a pre-contact, "mental" skill, one of relationship. And really nothing that indicated any concerns for structure, connections in the body, generating power, etc. The way in which he mentions the use of guns and artillery could lead one to believe that the use of the body itself is not even an element of this skill. Obviously nothing in the story can be said to be a "how to," but more of a "what is." Quote:
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Chris,
One more thing. You have posted that story a number of times. You must like it. How do you interpret it? Here I go hijacking another thread :cool: |
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Are there effects that can be used without the body? Sure, but I could say the same for weightlifting. That doesn't mean that the process that creates those effects doesn't work through the body. Best, Chris |
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Best, Chris |
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What I find funny about this Mochizuki story is he doesn't mention how frenchies were somehow inmune to his aikido and his judo/karate background saving his ass.
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A fair question. I'm only about 5'8" but I'm fairly solidly constructed so have gotten the "brute force assertion" more than once. (And size does matter, no matter what they say, uhm)
But a fairly simple thing is to have a simple hands on shoulder connection, remove their connection to the ground in the subtlest way your skill allows, such that they stagger and have to take a step. You can say, "That thar is Aiki!". The same thing gets applied in locks, throws and strikes, yippee. (For the judo purists it's the subtler setup to kuzushi than more observable timing and pressure set ups) |
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Best, Chris |
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