Aikido and Budo
This interview was new to me and touches on some issues that get a lot of discussion here. Among other things, the future of the Aikikai and international organizational issues, the nature of teaching & ranking, etc... Yamada Sensei said several things that I find thought provoking
for the context, the full article is well worth reading, and is at "http://www.aikido-yamada.eu/index.php/sensei/interview/" here are some quotes, "As I said before, what is good about aikido is also the problem of aikido. I don’t call aikido ‘budo’ anymore because what makes Aikido so popular is its flexibility, lack of competition, no physical requirements. Anybody can practice. That is a good part of aikido. I’m always happy to see people who have a physical problem that would prevent them from practicing other martial arts enjoying themselves with aikido. That is the beauty of Aikido. If Aikido were pure budo, it wouldn’t be so popular.... " Y. Yamada "Well, the ranking system in aikido is another headache. I personally disagree with this system. A teaching certificate is okay, a black belt is okay. But after that, no numbers, no shodan, no nidan, etc. People know who is good and who is bad. ..." Y. Yamada "...In my opinion, the time of spreading aikido to the world is finished; now we have to focus on quality."Y. Yamada |
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The dojo and shrine in Iwama are the birthplace of Aikido as we know it. It was there that Morihei Ueshiba O-sensei synthesized and perfected his martial art (budo) from his many studies of other martial arts and religions.
His longest time student in Iwama was my teacher, Morihiro Saito-sensei (23 years living and training with O-sensei). He passed on to us the essence of Aikido as he learned it from O-sensei as "Takemusu Aiki". Takemusu Aiki can be translated as "the union with the spirit of the universe which gives creation to a martial art". The "take" in "takemusu" is the same Chinese character (kanji) as the "bu" in "budo". I trained with Yamada-sensei in the 60s and respect him very much. However, I regret that he and others no longer consider Aikido to be budo. Saito-sensei constantly lamented that Aikido around the world was degenerating into a system of light exercise. This is fine for people who want this rather than the hard knocks and pain that go with real Aikido training. Maybe they should call it "Aiki-taiso" (exercise based on Aikido), because it is not O-sensei's Takemusu Aiki which is budo in its purest form. Watering down Aikido into something soft certainly makes it appeal to many more people than real training, which attracts only a small number of unique and dedicated individuals. But regrettably Yamada-sensei is right when he says that soft "Aikido" training is not budo. |
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I'm someone who is interested in Budo, likes hard martial practice, is interested in DH and MS and the other people here talking about IP/IS........ BUT, it does seem to me that many of the people focusing on budo/martial effectiveness/IP/IS are not comfortable (or uninterested) dealing with the underlying questions of "what is the purpose of Aikido"? what brings the most societal benefits?
the previous poster says "Watering down Aikido into something soft certainly makes it appeal to many more people than real training, which attracts only a small number of unique and dedicated individuals.", -but is that a wholly a bad thing? is acquiring power a worthy goal? does it help make the world a better place? etc... ie: the issue seems to me to be the question of who is aikido for? what is it's purpose in the world? is it for the general public? or do serious martial artists have some kind of priority? who does Aikido belong to? who does your dojo belong to? (Yamada sensei has said that some people come to the dojo to learn to fight, some for exercise, some from an interest in the Japanese culture and the philosophy, or to get out of the house and make new friends, or to lose weight etc.... and that the dojo belongs equally to all of the members) ie if Aikido is to be inclusive of middle age 1X a week beginners/people with physical disabilities/people who's primary interest is the philosophy/health etc... (and this is the vast majority of practitioners...like tai chi also) then they have the same rights as the "serious" people. and what do you do? what's the alternative? ...cut them out and we can reduce the # of people practicing by a huge percentage. is that desirable? maybe it will evolve like Tai Chi, where a majority practice a not so martial form for health and centering benefits etc... but where a minority keep the martial side growing PS I like the ideas about rank (which Yamada Sensei has been saying for a long time) |
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Some people like racing cars. Some people like playing chess. Some people like making pottery. And some people like training Aikido as a true budo like O-sensei intended. They all do their thing because they enjoy it, not because of some power trip.
I have no objection to providing light training for people who want it. My objection is the allegation that Aikido is not budo. This implies that serious training has been abandoned and replaced entirely by light training, which I agree is not budo, to make Aikido "more popular". If someone wants to train budo, they can go to a hard style dojo (try finding one these days). If someone wants light exercise, they can go to a recreational dojo. There is room for both. No problem. Nobody gets cut. To each his own. |
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One of the problems with the conventional training method in Aikido is that, even though it is usually billed as something that can be practiced by anyone, it is very difficult to lighten the training physically without losing the intensity in a conventional setting. Best, Chris |
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we are there now, and I don't really see it as a problem.
but some people are not comfortable with it. Many people seem to want to make aikido over to reflect their own focus. |
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I have no particular problem with recreational Aikido, it is what it is. When it claims to be something that it's not, well... I might play recreational basketball, but if I claim that I'm Michael Jordan - then something's off. Best, Chris |
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Much of what Aikido has become lacks much, if any of this aspect. The art has been changed to allow people of every different physical capability and disposition to not only train but progress up the ranks and even become teachers. It would be my contention that the folks who allowed the art to change in this way were indeed "making it over to reflect their own focus". But I do not sense that this is what you meant. |
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Hi George,
you wrote "A good part of what gives any Budo practice some "transformative" aspect is the intensity."... It would be my contention that the folks who allowed the art to change in this way were indeed making it over to reflect their own focus". But I do not sense that this is what you meant... actually it is what I meant. and I agree with you but don't have an answer to the issue of (as I wrote above) "ie if Aikido is to be inclusive of middle age 1X a week beginners/people with physical disabilities/people who's primary interest is the philosophy/health etc... (and this is the vast majority of practitioners...like tai chi also) then they have the same rights as the "serious" people. and what do you do?" if we require intensity do we get rid of the students that can't or don't want to practice with more focus? All my major teachers have also been direct students of O'Sensei. but when they'd have an older person, or someone with health issues come to class they all were gracious about allowing them to practice at the level that they could sustain. I think that it never occurred to any of them that this type of "comfortable" practice might become the majority, and what to do about it.... |
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When you state, "issues that get a lot of discussion here", do you mean here on AikiWeb or in your own dojo or organization? I know Yamada Shihan quite well and when we meet we inevitably talk about such issues, but I am pleasantly surprised if they are being discussed by his senior students also. Quote:
However, one of the problems of aikido that Yamada Shihan did not touch upon in the extracts you quoted is that of finding and developing good teachers. I think this is more sharply emphasized as a problem outside Japan than it is here. The fact that he did not touch on it does not mean that he has not thought about this problem and I think it is a source of pride with him that he has done his best to prepare the USAF for the time when he is no longer around. A common problem here is how you teach the teachers and I suspect that the model offered by Morihei Ueshiba himself is one of the things that changed after the war. Quote:
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I'm not going to speculate on USAF issues as I'm not an insider, and not at all involved, though of course I know some of the people.
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Hello Mr Kasavan,
Well, Yamada Shihan was one of the examiners when I received shodan (he was visiting the UK at the time). So I myself do not see him so much as the head of the USAF, though perhaps this is how the majority of Aikiweb members from the US might see him. I see him rather more as a very senior instructor in relation to Doshu and the Aikikai and he is one of the few senior shihans in the IAF who tells me exactly what he thinks. In the interview there was a mention of 'pure' budo, but I wonder whether there ever was a time when budo was 'pure'. In Japanese culture the concept of purity has a significance it lacks in some other cultures. Best wishes, |
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here's is another recent interview with Yamada sensei dealing with some of the same issues
http://www.guillaumeerard.com/aikido...u-the-free-man |
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I agree with the grading statement. I spent a long time in Asia and I met more than a few people who just got to black belt and then left it at that, yet continue to train. If they did grade, it was more often due to sensei pressure rather than their own volition. Of course, others follow the grade for whatever reason. Personally, I chased the grades up to age 30 then quit the farce. Now I couldn't care less but barely a day passes when I don't train.
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