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Liz Evans 04-15-2003 01:57 AM

Koshi nage problems!!
 
Anybody got some 'tips' for how to do a good koshi nage? (From any attack.)

I need to drastically improve my koshi nage technique for my next grading so any help with this would be really helpfull.

Also I find taking ukemi from a koshi nage is often difficult - I havent broken anything yet but its only a matter of time.

Thank you.

sanosuke 04-15-2003 02:11 AM

same problem with me, one thing i found quite easy is to lower your hip as you grab uke's waist, then raise your hip as you throw. This is similar to one of judo's throw (i forgot the name, though)

As for taking ukemi, if you feel not sure just grab your nage's collar to reduce the momentum

Or maybe anyone got better tips?

Jason Tonks 04-15-2003 05:05 AM

Alright there Liz. If you start from Katate Dori or first form wrist grab, then start to make Shihonage and as you are extending out Ukes arm to take his/her posture, step into Ukes centre with your back leg. Then if you make gigotai posture and lower your hips and load Uke onto your hips you should be there. You need to keep Ukes posture extended all the way through the technique so they are off balance. I hope you can envisage what I mean, difficult to put across in words. Hope it helps!

All the best

Jason T

Bronson 04-15-2003 11:14 AM

Quote:

Anybody got some 'tips' for how to do a good koshi nage?
It really is going to be difficult for anybody to give you a good answer. We don't know how you do koshinage in your dojo. A tip given here may directly conflict with what your sensei wants to see. So the best tip I can give you is to ask your sensei or the senior students. I'm always telling our juniors to ask us stuff. The seniors are a resource for you to use...use them, they like it :D

Bronson

mike lee 04-15-2003 11:23 AM

practice slowly and carefully
 
1. Stretch out uke, usually after atemi.

2. Step in sideways next to uke's groin so that if one was looking directly down from above, uke and nage would form a "T."

3. Squat low enough so that your hara (center) willl be below uke's hara.

4. When first learning, uke and nage should cooperate in order to get the hara of uke and nage to line up.

5. Uke should reach around and hold nage's and shoulder. (Many people grab the gi, but when working with women, one often gets a handfull of breast. So grabbing around the shoulder joint can prevent embarrassing moments and I actually think it's more comfortable and safe for both uke and nage.)

6. At first, just practice balancing uke on your hara — don't throw immediately. Do this several times.

7. When you feel you have good control of the first part of the waza, then throw. But notice that one can throw ever so slowly at first if one wishes. In the event that uke is nervous taking such falls, practicing slowly will help to build uke's confidence. I've found, generally speaking, aikidoists try to do this waza too fast, and this is why they seldom master it and feel comfortable when doing it. Both uke and nage should have a good, safe feeling when doing this technique.

Once again, the short list: Atemi, stretch uke, form a "T," squat (and uke grabs shoulder), balance on hara, throw.


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