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Kieun 01-07-2004 12:50 AM

aikido and bujinkan taijutsu
 
I was wondering if someone could tell me:

I have the opportunity to study Bujinkan style taijutsu in addition to my aikido, and I was wondering if it would be synergistic for me in my training. I know that certain arts like Iaido are recognized to complement aikido well, and I was thinking that Bujinkan Taijutsu also stresses whole body motions and body mechanics (altho the flavors are different a lot of the techniques seem to share similar flows). Does anyone have any experience in both and would you care to tell me how your experiences have been? Thank you.

L. Camejo 01-07-2004 03:32 AM

Hi Kieun,

Have not had any "official" personal experience with Bujinkan:), but I have had 2 students who studied this form of Ninjutsu prior to Aikido training and both were told by their prior instructors that if they could not find a Ninjutsu school, study Aikido.

From my experience with those 2 guys, there was a slight problem with separating the 2 philosophies and learning to relax a bit, but in the end they turned out to be pretty good Aikidoka.

So from my limited experience I would tend to say Yes, they should complement each other pretty well. However, it may depend on both your Bujinkan sensei's particular way of teaching taijutsu and your Aikido sensei's approach to Aikido. I think the practicality and resistance focus of our Aikido style made things easier for those guys honestly.

Generally though, I think one should have a sound foundation in the basics of any art before attempting to learn another.

Just my personal view is all.

L.C.:ai::ki:

MikeE 01-07-2004 09:07 AM

I have trained quite a bit with the Bujinkan. There are things that will be quite similar and there will be things that will make you wonder why something is done the way it is.

Of the nine ryu that comprise Bujinkan Budo Taijutsu, I think you will see the most similarity to aikido in some of the Togakure ryu, Shinden Fudo ryu, and some of the armoured schools (these have a definite Daito ryu feel at times).

There is only so many ways you can twist a wrist, so of course there are similarities in the physical aspect of the art (just like with about any jujutsu), but, the philosophy tends to be a bit more severe than in Aikido.

In Aikido we have loving protection for our attacker. This tends to be lacking when you look at the finishes to many Bujinkan techniques.

I really enjoy the art for the ranged weapons (naginata, yari, etc.)and the people.

Hanna B 01-07-2004 12:49 PM

Things I have heard people say who supplemented aikido with BBT is that the bujinkan taijutsu improved their improvisation skills, i.e. jijuwaza. Considering how you train in bujinkan compared with aikido, it seems reasonable.

The trick when practising different arts at the same time (even different types of aikido!) is to keep them separate. What spills over from one to the other will do so by itself, you do not need to conciously help it. In the long run, it is a must to be interested in what the teacher in respective art actually teaches, or one will simply be wasting everybodys time.


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