Ryuuha Bugei all soft and mushy, too!
Contra the usual position that BUJUTSU is nasty and brutish; BUDO, soft and squishy:
Article, "Off the Warpath" by Karl Friday, University of Georgia, From Budo Perspectives, edited by Alexander Bennett, 2005 by Kendo World Publications Limited, Auckland, New Zealand. Interested in comments... Quote:
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Thanks Don!!! great Article....
You mean Budo has a tradition and history!!! It's absolutely shocking to think that we're not the only Generation in History to "understand" the meaning of Budo. :) William Hazen Actually that was a poor attempt at sarcasm. My Apologies |
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Interesting article. Seems to suggest a sort of ebb-and-flow development to MA, rather than the more commonly thought linear path.
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This is a really interesting article, but to me it seems more like a possible hypothesis than a finding. I might have missed it somewhere, but where does it provide explanation and support for its key assertion that koryu bugei have little to do with battlefield combat?
It mentions that the sword wasn't very important on the battlefield, but was rather mainly a tool for disorganized personal combat, and it follows that martial arts that do not emphasize battlefield weapons have little to do with battlefield fighting. However, the part quoted above doesn't establish that koryu bugei focus primarily on the sword. My understanding is that most of them focus on yari, naginata, or whatever weapon was common in their age. Is this mistaken? |
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I did find one other possible example, but it doesn't seem very thorough either. It says that:
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It is a nice article but is it not looking at the past with modern eyes? I mean European knight developed courtly loves and all the social niceties that goes with knighthood. That does not prevent them to have a very efficient martial system, and like in japan the sword was a secondary weapon. All the medievals treatise treat the long sword, but at the tie of the treaties the main weapon on the battle field was the lance on horseback and pole axes. But the thing is that those treatises are geared toward nobility, whose rsole purpose in society is martial endeavours. You can find advertisement against teachings common people" and the same secrecy than the Japanese ruyha. The file and ranks was really like military conscription today. A few weeks training, so that they are not too dangerous for allied forces, have an idea where the business end of the weapon is and here you go laddies. Those who survive the first battles can pass on experiences to the new one coming up. In medieval Europe, professional /semi professional soldier followed that mode of functioning. and the warring state in Japan had nothing to envy to occidental Europe during the 14th and 15 centutry. I do not think we can do a correlation between the actual efficiency of a style and the spread of school and style. Society was different and the more remote in time you go the less actual sources you got. For example Medieval German School produced about 20 manual during the 15th century, we have 2 Italian treatises, two English mnemonic verses. But we know that there was probably much more style than that. I am not saying that article is wrong, just that their was societal constrain on the bushi and that there was plenty of people conscripted/volunteering for the army for very few styles is a little to succinct to demonstrate the point of the original poster and the of the article |
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FWIW, there's another excellent article by William Bodiford in the book addressing the much-ballyhooed putative connection between Zen and Ken that's worth reading. I got my copy through the local library's interlibrary loan system. |
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Yeah, sticks and stones...it was mostly stones and arrows that killed warriors back then.
I see this crowd of people dressed for battle, one crowd on each side, throwing things at each other. Yikes.... :D B, R |
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In that case -- very interesting! I'm curious to hear more. |
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