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Sid 05-05-2001 01:21 PM

Tomiki Aikido
Hey guys!!! Its freezing here, practise was strange(it is normally warm). I do not understand something about Tomiki aikido - did O'Sensei not expressly state that "competition is not the way of aiki"?

Thus, did Tomiki have a major fallout with the Aikikai?

Please - do not take this as an excuse to start a flame war.


mj 05-05-2001 01:28 PM

Sid, I only read this, so don't take it as absolute fact.
Tomiki sensei went back to O-sensei with his 'version' of aikido and O-sensei was willing to accept it as a way to teach, but the other students voted it down.

PeterR 05-05-2001 01:59 PM

Hey Sid;

Remember nothing is ever cut and dry or as absolute as some would like to believe.

Check out the thread Aikido in the Olympics - if you have a question that is not covered there post again and I will be happy to input.
Both sides of the coin were well represented on that thread.

Sid 05-05-2001 02:02 PM

Oops - never thought of that!

Sorry :)


Sid 05-05-2001 02:08 PM

Hmm. I glanced through it, but could you please put it concisely for me?

Thanks, Sid

PeterR 05-05-2001 02:34 PM


There is a lot there and a real explosion of questions here, on e-budo and Aikido Journal in the last month. Frankly I'm typed out.

Go to

Like other pre-war students of Ueshiba Kenji Tomiki went his own way after the war. Ueshiba did not think competition had its place in the Aikikai but according to people I talked to who were there at the time Kenji Tomiki was encouraged by Ueshiba to develop his Aikido.

Kenji Tomiki continued to teach at Aikikai Honbu after the introduction of his system to Waseada University and continued to participate in Aikikai events even after he stopped teaching

The introduction of his system to Kansai Universities was facilitated by an Aikikai Shihan.

The dojo culture and view of what competition means to Shodokan (Kenji Tomiki's style) is quite different from how the strongest critics view it - it is not about winning.

Shiai is considered a training tool with the end result being better Aikido.

More information can be found at


There are several articles written by Tomiki himself on the goals of competition and its role within the Shodokan.

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