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rob_liberti 03-26-2009 10:08 AM

"Internal training, Aiki, and empowering Aikido" Seminar w/Dan Harden
 
Event:
" Internal training, Aiki, and empowering Aikido"
A private workshop for teachers only with Dan Harden
Date: Tentative --summer 2009
Location: Massachusetts (several locations in central Mass are being considered and will be finalized by mid April).

This seminar is a continuation of the workshops already taking place at Dan's Dojo with advance level aikido students and teachers from New England. This will be the first time Dan is making his research into the Japanese arts and the resultant training practices of his private dojo available on a national level. He is reserving his first national event as an opportunity for teachers to begin training privately. The goal is to offer a workshop for professionals in a neutral environment, with an emphasis on learning and understanding internal power and aiki in a global sense, while undertaking the difficult task of taking that first step into personal training and integration of the concepts into your own art.

The work shop will cover introductory basics of the system Dan has developed and used successfully with hundreds of students and teachers from a wide range of martial arts. Dan will outline the training in such a way as to make the relevancy to martial movement immediate, clear and accessible. Included will be:
A presentation of how the martial arts take advantage of natural and common postural failures and methods for building a bujutsu body that moves antithetical to the "principles" most martial arts use as their foundation for defeating the common body frame.
How the trained body can begin to take care of itself automatically while delivery non-dedicated force to create openings in a live environment.
An emphasis on specific training tools (solo and paired) to develop internal power, and specifically how it relates to aiki connections in a martial context.
Creating and maintaining a structure supported on all sides and how to strengthen it with breath training exercises.
Study guides and teaching materials will be provided to participants for further study at home The material covered; while benefiting aikido greatly will not be "specific" to just the aiki arts like Aikido and Daito ryu, but any grappling or striking art, so teachers from other disciplines are welcome.

This will be a closed seminar with no pictures, video, or visitors allowed. Participants are required to fill out an application (available by e-mailing Dan @ homeoffice@charter.net ) for further details and to be considered for a spot. People may or may not be accepted by Dan's sole discretion.
Seminar fee is $180.00 for both days (no partial attendance or single days) and will include fresh fruit and beverages during training. Local hotel discounts will be offered.
Teachers who have practiced under Akuzawa, Mike Sigman or Dan in the past and wish to attend will be offered a discount.
Dan will be available for private lessons on Monday for those interested.

*This will be the first of three seminars Dan will be hosting this year. Others will be offered that are not reserved for teachers.

thisisnotreal 03-26-2009 11:02 AM

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This is unbelievable.

Wonderful!

This is gonna get innnerestin'....

gdandscompserv 03-26-2009 11:43 AM

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Go Dan!
I'll stay tuned for the beginner level seminars.
:D

rob_liberti 03-26-2009 05:22 PM

Re: "Internal training, Aiki, and empowering Aikido" Seminar
 
Can the title of this be changed to have "with Dan Harden" added to it?

DH 03-26-2009 05:24 PM

Re: "Internal training, Aiki, and empowering Aikido" Seminar
 
Maybe
Seminar with Dan Harden-"Internal training, Aiki, and empowering Aikido"
If I have a choice:)
Thanks
Dan

Mark Jakabcsin 03-27-2009 06:27 AM

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Dan,
Great idea. I am sure it will be a blast and eye opening. Best of luck.

Take care,

Mark J.

phitruong 03-27-2009 08:13 AM

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why go for teachers? those folks don't need no internal stuffs other than a good dimsum buffet? besides, they have been trained with lots of bad habits, and would take too long to de-program, if even at all possible. :)

now us beginners on the hand, whichever other hand, have not accumulated bad habits so it would be easier for us. so for us nobs we can stuff internal stuffs in, whereas, teachers have to stuff the internal stuffs out. i think i just confused meself. :D

phitruong 03-27-2009 08:44 AM

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forgot to ask, will there be "internal training for dummies" seminar? I would like to sign up for that. I am sure Ricky would want that as well. :D

gdandscompserv 03-27-2009 10:01 AM

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Quote:

Phi Truong wrote: (Post 227261)
forgot to ask, will there be "internal training for dummies" seminar? I would like to sign up for that. I am sure Ricky would want that as well. :D

YES! That is exactly what I'm looking for.
"internal training for dummies"
Brilliant!
:D

DH 03-27-2009 10:23 AM

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Guys
I am going to do another seminar shortly. Please don't use phrases like dummies. I see no difference between students or teachers who are learning unfamiliar material, or tuning material they already know or what have you.
The only difference in teaching teachers is that they are in a position to effect change in a greater capacity. As a business or information dissemination model, it makes perfect sense. Reach a greater number of people to effect change.
Teachers can return to their dojos and start "practicing the material" as part of regular dojo time at their discretion. It has been my experience that these people return and openly tell their students they are "working on some new stuff" and also tell them with who. Again from my experience it has been a rather open discussion.
So I would ask you-what are your goals?
Lets review the posts on aikiweb. Students have been writing in here for a few years now talking about the frustrations of not being able to practice this new training when they wanted to. Some even quit or took a break from Aikido to get this.
"Fair enough." I said.
How about if I can help fix that?
How about teaching the teachers who control those classes. Could I get them interested enough, so that students could actually train aiki in an aikido dojo? Well, I have been quietly testing that out for a few years now. I took a chance that really might have blown up in my face. We could be talking about some real negative experiences here couldn't we?
Good news
It is working out rather well. The teachers love it-many of whom have been searching for this kind of material most of their careers and not getting it. The students are enjoying the fact that there teachers are letting them practice it and I can say I helped.
Hey, I'm just trying to do the best I can manage with time allowed.
I can't wait to meet some of the guys who have been writing me. I think we will have a great time sweating together and raising a few later.
Cheers
Dan

Thomas Campbell 03-29-2009 09:31 PM

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Quote:

Dan Harden wrote: (Post 227213)
Maybe
Seminar with Dan Harden-"Internal training, Aiki, empowering Aikido, and Kaboodle pizza "
If I have a choice:)
Thanks
Dan

Fixed. :)

George S. Ledyard 03-30-2009 12:20 AM

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Quote:

Phi Truong wrote: (Post 227260)
now us beginners on the hand, whichever other hand, have not accumulated bad habits so it would be easier for us. so for us nobs we can stuff internal stuffs in, whereas, teachers have to stuff the internal stuffs out. i think i just confused meself. :D

Don't worry Phi, you have enough bad habits to qualify as an instructor....

MM 03-30-2009 08:25 AM

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For what it's worth ...

Of the people training with Dan, I think I'm the only one doing it long distance. With that in mind, if anyone has any questions about long distance training in regards to what Dan's teaching, you are more than welcome to ask me about my experiences. I don't log into Aikiweb very often anymore, so it's best to send an email to "markmurray" at "ma.rr.com". Remove the quotes. :)

Mark

DH 03-30-2009 12:29 PM

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Quote:

William Hazen wrote: (Post 227458)
Well I get the what and why of what you're trying to do Mr Hardin just perfectly... and I am going to do my best to get there (unemployed and broke or not)...

I would love to share my experiance of it with all the West Coast Shoji Nishio Adherents and since I feel it will make our Aikido better for having been exposed to it perhaps it will lead to bigger and better things in the future like getting one of your senior students or you out here someday. :)

William Hazen

Hey!!!!
When did I become "Mr. Harden" to you!!:o
Well the economy is affecting my business worse than I have seen in my adult life. If it keeps going this bad I might have time to make it there myself this year!! After watching Nishio's movement for years...particulalry for things he is noted for...yes I think that might prove to be interesting for both.
I hope to offer you some interesting perspectives if you can make it here as well. Then what is sure to prove to be interesting discussions after.
Cheers
Dan

DH 04-06-2009 09:14 AM

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Update
I am narrowing in on dates. It appears July may be out. There are too many conflicts with everyone's schedules and some just cannot swing it. Jun and Aug are still open. For those who have not sent in their available weekends yet please do so soon. We are trying to settle on a date by mid April.

It might be worth noting that the on-going work here with aikido teachers who run and manage active dojo's is an on-going collaborative specifically addressing incorporating this training into relevant martial movement within their aikido. To which they are reporting demonstrable improvement; both publicly and behind the scenes with their own students and fellow teachers in the art. Which according to the responses I am receiving- was more widely known than I had realized!
I am going to cap this at 20 people in order to get more hands-on work done.
Cheers
Dan

gdandscompserv 04-06-2009 12:59 PM

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Quote:

Dan Harden wrote: (Post 227459)
Hey!!!!
When did I become "Mr. Harden" to you!!:o
Well the economy is affecting my business worse than I have seen in my adult life. If it keeps going this bad I might have time to make it there myself this year!! After watching Nishio's movement for years...particulalry for things he is noted for...yes I think that might prove to be interesting for both.
I hope to offer you some interesting perspectives if you can make it here as well. Then what is sure to prove to be interesting discussions after.
Cheers
Dan

So there is a silver lining after all. Sorry about your business Dan, but if it gets you out here to Southern California, what can I say?:D

DH 04-17-2009 08:27 AM

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Update:
I have only three spots left. If you're are interested- now is the time. This filled up much faster than I ever expected.

After reviewing the schedules sent in, I am narrowing it down to the last two weekends in Jun or the first two weekends in August. This helps the majority of those interested.
I am finalizing the date by 4/22/09.
See you there
Dan

dbotari 04-27-2009 02:17 PM

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Dan,

Any update on the final date? Will you post the date here or only contact the attendees with the information?

Thanks,
Dan Botari

DH 04-28-2009 07:39 AM

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Quote:

Dan Botari wrote: (Post 229068)
Dan,

Any update on the final date? Will you post the date here or only contact the attendees with the information?

Thanks,
Dan Botari

Hello Dan
I lost internet and Cable for a while there. I'm back up and sending replies. It looks like we are narrowing down to the first two weekends in August.
I will post it here and contact everyone by email this week.
There are a still a few spots left and thats going to be it.
Cheers
Dan
.

David Orange 04-28-2009 08:58 AM

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Quote:

Dan Harden wrote: (Post 229097)
Hello Dan
I lost internet and Cable for a while there. I'm back up and sending replies. It looks like we are narrowing down to the first two weekends in August.
I will post it here and contact everyone by email this week.
There are a still a few spots left and thats going to be it.
Cheers
Dan
.

Oh, I want to be in that number!

Looking forward to it!

David

dbotari 04-28-2009 10:20 AM

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Dan,

Thanks for the update. I look forward to hearing more.

Cheers,
Dan

DH 05-08-2009 08:58 AM

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Update
I am pleased to announce we have finalized the event date and site. I did my best to accomodate the teachers busy schedules. I realize some won't be able to make it but it seems the best for the majority.
The event will take place on August 1st -2nd
It will take place at the
Sturbridge Host
Hotel & Conference Center on Cedar Lake

Link Here
This is a lovely lodge style conference center with lake-front and indoor and outdoor amenities. It is almost across the street from old Sturbridge Village; One of the country's largest living history museums, and a national landmark preservation site
Link Here
Discount room rates are available for $109 dollars (doube occupancy), but there are many cheap digs in the area from $50 and up. All within a mile or so away.
Link Here

Schedule
Sat, 9 to 12
Lunch 12 - 2p.m.
Afternoon session 2:30 to 6 p.m
Same for Sunday

There has been much discussion about the exhaustion level and concern for knees and such. My approach is mentally and physically exhausting but anyone can do it and when and IF someone gets a little tired, nothing is missed by sitting out and listening and taking notes. The goal is to provide a training platform, materials and an overall understanding of basics to take home and work on with your students.
Many of the local teachers have asked to attend as well. So those new to the work will get to talk with, feel and brain storm with their peers from 4th to 6th dan in Aikido (and other arts as well) and how they are incorporating thsi training back into their aikido.
That said we have quite a bit of fun with much laughter at our get togethers while getting a lot of work done. It is my goal to have people walk away with a clear view of the material, its purpose and goals in solo training, and a clear understanding of its use in live and very martially effective, platform ot empower their Aikido.

With the nature of some of the recent discussions here I think it will be enlightening to be face to face with 5 and 6th dan teachers with decades of experience with the top shihan in the world and hear THEIR opnions on just how relevant this training is to Aikido. Then hear them clearly state why they believe thiis IS aikido and more's the point, the best power they have felt.

Due to the local teachers offering to help -and me finding a larger space-I have extended registration and will hold a few more spaces open. I will be sending out PDF registration forms and payment requirements all weekend.
Hope to see you there
Dan

Kevin Leavitt 05-09-2009 03:48 AM

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Dan, if I can make it I will try and come. I cannot predict my schedule out that far yet.

DH 05-11-2009 01:21 PM

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Update
I was delayed in sending the registration information due to a small glich on the Hotel/ conference center side. The resolution has worked out well for us in the long run.
We are on for August 1 and 2nd and we have a large air-conditioned space overlooking Cedar lake, fresh sliced fruit, with an attached tavern and full bar at night and hotel rooms for $109 double occupancy. with swimming, boating, Sturbridge village and some good budo people.
They are offering us a catered dinner at deeply discounted rates right on the conference center grounds. I will contact people privately and see if there is a consensus for that
Stay tuned

I will begin emailing tonight.
Cheers
Dan

Aikibu 05-11-2009 02:17 PM

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Yaaaahoooooo! :)

William Hazen

Thomas Campbell 05-11-2009 03:00 PM

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Fantastic, Dan. Best wishes to you and the attendees for a GREAT seminar.

DH 05-13-2009 08:52 PM

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Update
Applications haven been sent out. There are still a few spots open.
Cheers
Dan

DH 06-12-2009 11:32 AM

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Update
Seminar enrollment is now closed. Thank your for your interest.

I have sent out a series of e-mails this morning to all regarding some booking problems with the Hotel for the night BEFORE the event, not during. Please check your e-mails.
Final notice on the buffet dinner on sat please respond to that as well.

Looking forward to some great work, good food, good stories, and much laughter.
Dan

Allen Beebe 07-30-2009 10:02 AM

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Just wanted to wish Dan and the attendees to his "Internal training, Aiki, and empowering Aikido" Seminar" the best of luck.

I hope everyone arrives and returns home safely and has a, fun, transformative experience. I often find a new perspective is often far more valuable than new discrete knowledge. (For example, the *concept* of a wheel is far more valuable to gain than additional knowledge about what specific kind of wood works best for one's travois.)

All the best,
Allen
Inventor of the mono-pole travois patent pending.

Kevin Leavitt 07-30-2009 02:08 PM

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But look how well the woman has established a ground path and the horse is definitely feeling the ki that she is projecting.

Kevin Leavitt 07-30-2009 02:11 PM

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Holy cow! didn't realize the pic was gonna take up half the thread! Oh well.

I wish I could be there, maybe some other time! Enjoy!

jss 07-30-2009 02:27 PM

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Quote:

Kevin Leavitt wrote: (Post 236106)
and the horse is definitely feeling the ki that she is projecting.

Well yeah, with that size of an antenna...;)

DH 07-31-2009 11:21 AM

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Sorry I have been unresponsive for the last couple of days. I have a family member dying of brain cancer. With all the associated issues surrounding that it is taking up much of my focus these days.
Just wanted to say thank you for the well wishers. I am sure we will have fun.
Fortunately, I have conformation that there are going to be many local teachers who have been training with me for a couple of years on hand to help with some hands on work. More importantly, they are willing to answer questions about:
How they are training?
What they are training?
What they personally are focusing on?
How this has affected their Aikido?
What do they see for the future in their training?
The repercussions, up the chain and down the chain?
etc etc.
All will be on hand for lunch and some will be on hand for dinner after. Getting some alone time with them to ask questions and compare notes without me in the room ;) might prove beneficial for some great talks; one professional to another.

The purpose and goals of this endeavor are to benefit students and teachers of Aikido together. For these teachers to offer their time and experiences to fellow teachers of the art, for free should not go unnoticed by the community.
I continue to hope we can take ownership of the arts and help serve each other with an open hand.
Look forward to meeting everyone.
Thank you
Dan

Janet Rosen 07-31-2009 01:10 PM

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Dan I'm sorry about your family crisis.

I hope the seminar goes well. Look forward to reading about it afterwards.

Marc Abrams 08-02-2009 08:08 PM

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My wife and I have just returned from this seminar. To say that this seminar was fantastic would be an understatement!

We would like to thank Dan for his openness and the level of his teaching. Additionally, Dan has taught his students how to teach what he was doing so that they were an invaluable part of the learning experience.

It was also a wonderful opportunity to actually meet some of my on-line friends. I look forward to future training opportunities with Dan.

Marc & Mayda Abrams

rob_liberti 08-02-2009 10:24 PM

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Dan did a hell of a job presenting information that I have been working on for the past couple years all in 2 days and giving people the opportunity to take some drills back home to practice.

There were enough people who had insight/experience with Dan's training to go around and make sure everyone was on track.

From where I stood, I would say that people put in the work and got an amazing experience.

I had a good time with old friends and new.

Rob

Mary Eastland 08-03-2009 06:14 AM

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It is great to hear you all had a good seminar. We did too. No shihans of course...;o) just us...and it was really fun. We left happy, stronger and tired.
Mary

P.S. Sending Dan prayers.

Tom H. 08-03-2009 07:31 AM

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Quote:

Rob Liberti wrote: (Post 236348)
Dan did a hell of a job presenting information that I have been working on for the past couple years all in 2 days and giving people the opportunity to take some drills back home to practice.

I second that. I had a great time meeting a neat variety of people, and hope everyone took something home. The seminar's format and content progression made it feel like a regular training session extended across two days.

akiy 08-03-2009 08:29 AM

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Congratulations to Dan and all of the attendees for what sounds like a successful and fruitful seminar.

You're in my thoughts, Dan, for your family member.

-- Jun

David Orange 08-03-2009 04:12 PM

Blew My Mind...But Not My Spleen
 
Just back from meeting Dan Harden and his crew of immoveable people. It was really a great experience and I want to thank Dan and all his folks and all the people who came to the seminar for making it so productive.

First, I'd like to say that Dan is everything he says and everything "they" say. He gave me a few light taps that blew me back several feet each time (four thigh "kicks", a palm to the back of my ribs, a few double palms to the abdomen, a shoulder smack, numerous sweeping forearm strikes....maybe one regular punch...and one or two others, as well as some throws and a lot of generally leading me around helplessly). Every time, it felt devastating, yet I didn't get injured because he really was just giving me little taps. I would just hate to imagine what would happen if he put a little effort into any of those strikes. In fact, he said people had convinced him to go easier because he had previously given some people mild injuries. I now really appreciate the possibilites behind internal striking arts. It blew my mind, but thank God, not my spleen!

Second, I found Dan's power and movement to be very much like Minrou Akuzawa (Ark)'s. His training method also seemed very similar and the ways he would move to demonstrate certain ideas were just perfectly consistent with Ark's. I mentioned that to him and he reminded me that both he and Ark descend from a lineage of koryu aikijujutsu, via Sagawa, and koryu sword so it's natural that they would have very strong similiarities but some interesting differences as well. Dan's exercises were a lot of work but not as much "burning in" as Ark seems to do. We did a good bit of burning in with Dan, but mostly just to get us to identify the pathways and connections we were trying to find. Then we worked those connections more subtly--not to say that I fully understand Ark's method: he did tell me to come see him in Tokyo and that he would cover things on a different level there--but having been through two days with each of them, I make these surface observations. They are definitely on the "same" track: the track to the middle of themselves. Their results prove the validity and importance of each of their approaches. It behooves any serious martial artist (of any art) to meet both of them.

Third, Dan especially asked me to comment on the number of aikido teachers who made the effort to attend his seminar. He expressed a lot of gratitude for them and a hope that they will continue to develop. I can say certainly that aikido will take a big leap forward if even those twelve teachers really incorporate his methods into their instruction. Dan made it very clear that "If you want to learn this stuff and just keep it for yourself and not pass it on to your students, and make yourself superior to everyone, I don't want to know you." His intent, as he stated clearly before the seminar, was to get the teachers to learn this material so that they could re-incorporate it into the greater art. I think his efforts will have great effect in the coming decades. Aikido will become increasingly dynamic on this side of the "Great Peaceful Western Sea" and maybe the Japanese will begin to show more of what they know of internal power.

Fourth, the atmosphere was strong and positive, like Ark's seminar. Dan was very open and upfront. He answered many questions I've been developing as I've followed this topic over the past few years. We went into "winding" and tons of other subjects in detail and I saw how the ability to absorb incoming force results in "bouncing" the force away. I felt Ark do that, but in Dan's seminar we went more into how it happens. The weekend was filled with amazing new experiences that showed me that, even after 35 years, there are still completely new levels for me to see and I really appreciate that (from both Dan and Ark).

Last, the whole weekend was a blast. Lot's of laughter, good humor, great conversation and real revelation of things that I've been reading about for all these years without understanding them at all. I do believe that people who begin aikido from this point forward will experience a very exciting wave of transition back to the deepest roots of the art. I feel lucky to have seen the beginnings of that movement over these last few years and very encouraged for the future of the art.

So again, thanks to Dan and all his folks and best wishes to all the folks I met there after getting to know them here on aikiweb: Mark Murray, Marc Abrams (and Mayda), Josh Phillipson, Lee Salzman, Tom Holtz, Rob Liberti, and others whose names don't instantly pop into my exhausted mind. And thanks to Andy Prochnow, Jill (whose last name escaped me), Tom Garimaldi and others I'll suddenly remember after I post this. They helped keep the instruction coming through clearly while Dan worked with other small groups within the seminar. It was a perfect learning environment.

So to all who have been thinking about pursuing internal training, I can say with everyone else: Get out and meet people, especially Ark, Mike and Dan. I'm sure you will want to meet them again and again.

But as for Dan Harden, I am pleased to be able to say from experience, you cannot go wrong meeting up with him.

Best to all.

David


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