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ian 10-26-2000 07:28 AM

I was always taught that when receiving chokes you immediately put your throat into the nook of ukes elbow to avoid the immediate danger of passing out (which can take around 2 seconds). However, in light of information gleaned from this web site on chokes this seems to be erroneous because it is actually the reaction in your arteries which causes you to pass out rather than the pressure on the trachea. Therefore it would seem that this would actually speed up any choke.

I was hoping to do show ikkyo from a choke but I do not want give incorrect advice. Does anyone know the answer?

joeysola 10-26-2000 08:31 AM

turn into opponent
I have been doing brazilin jiu-jitsu for two years now and prior to that Judo for one year. I am no expert, but one thing i do know is you never turn into the choke. You always want to turn towards the person. If you turn away and towards the crook of your opponents arm the choke will sink in. If once the choke is sunk in, get keep your chin down so the pressure is on your chin not your throat. There are very effective escapes I have learned in Brazilian jiu-jitsu but it involves doing a lot of mat work type sparring. The reason for this is that it is usually much easier to escape from chokes once you take your opponent down.

Russ 10-26-2000 09:23 AM

Hi Ian,

We don't do a lot of chokes at our dojo but from a physiological point of view; if the choke is sinking in then lowering your chin is good. This defense will still protect your carotids for a few seconds as they run very close to parallel with your trachea. (Not on the sides of the neck as many assume, until you feel for a pulse.) Telling your students to lower their chins in this instance will do no harm.


ian 10-26-2000 09:33 AM

Many thanks Joeysola & Russ for your advice - thats helped to clarrify it for me.

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