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Creation Date: 04-02-2006 07:55 AM
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Personal, not interesting rants of a newbie to aikido. Your comments helps me, thanks.
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  #8 New 07-20-2006 02:42 AM
Just ran to a thread where someone said:
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Yes, I agree. I learned using three words borrowed from judo: kuzushi, tsukuri, and kake. Kuzushi is the most important (least for me where I am at now) because if you don't have it, you don't have the other two. So, you have balance, then you have being in the right place at the right time or the "fit", and finally the end of the technique or the "throw".
I totally relate to that. Last class we had jiyu waza, and my partner was my sensei. He attack constantly and didn't let up, saying "keep moving, don't stay in one place".
I managed to take his balance and try a kotegaeshi, but i wasn't positioned well and he regained his balance and the technique failed. But he still said "good job".
Using the above terms, I guess I achieved a Kuzushi for a fraction of a second, but failed the Tsukuri.
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#4 08-03-2006 11:48 PM
JAMJTX Says:
It's good to see I'm not the only one using Judo terms to teach Aikido. The only problem that I ran into though, is that when I break a technique down into 3 elements, the students often try to execute it in 3 steps. What happens is that they don't make it to tsukuri before uke regains his balance. I try to get them to see the 3 elements but think of them as 1. There is no pause in between.
#3 07-20-2006 01:57 PM
MM Says:
I was just amazed someone actually quoted me. Didn't even think about my name being there. No problems with that at all. I find that moments like the one you had are great for the learning process. Even if you don't have a mental breakthrough, it's enough that your subconscious starts working overtime. And then one day, voila, a brilliant moment of clarity. Well, okay, for me maybe not brilliant, but I'm happy with the clarity part. And, yes, any time you can get your sensei off balance is definitely an achievement. Mark
#2 07-20-2006 11:35 AM
RoyK Says:
Sorry Mark, for being too lazy to mention your name in the quote, I'm glad you wrote I think you described exactly what happened to me, My sensei was totally off balance (one foot in the air, hand reaching for the ground), and when i stepped out for kotegaeshi, suddenly i was near his fist... :P well, I still consider taking off balance a 100 kilo guy with lots of experience an achievement
#1 07-20-2006 09:07 AM
MM Says:
Hello! Those were my words. Wow, first time to being quoted. Sounds like you had some great training experience with your sensei. Did you have kuzushi for only a fraction of a second or longer? Because, for me, kuzushi, tsukuri, and kake aren't linear. You definitely have to keep kuzushi through tsukuri. Otherwise you don't have a chance for a proper tsukuri. You can have a perfect tsukuri with being in the right place at the right time, but without kuzushi, it's useless. What gets into more fun is when you have a great kuzushi that you keep but your tsukuri isn't good which creates an opening. Then uke, in one movement, regains balance and takes yours. Suddenly uke becomes tori and attempts tsukuri. While kuzushi is important, tsukuri in the proper time and place becomes equally important. Course, that's all my interpretation of things. Mark
 




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