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PhilMyKi
02-01-2006, 05:11 PM
Myself and a few other students were talking about this prior to a lesson the other week.

In the absence of being in a purpose built Dojo, what make a windy church hall or a sports hall into a dojo? Is it the students, O Sensei picture on the wall or something else?

Your thoughts please. :D
Edwin Neal
02-01-2006, 05:15 PM
the students make it a dojo, but i like Osensei's picture too...
Qatana
02-01-2006, 05:25 PM
Mats come in handy! Until we put ours down every class, we are in a ballet studio with a picture of OSensei on the wall. When the mats are down we are in the dojo.
We always bow when we enter, mats or not.
Mark Uttech
02-01-2006, 05:29 PM
what makes a dojo is a ten year commitment
nekobaka
02-01-2006, 05:29 PM
All of the places I practice are multi use rooms, so I agree the sensei and the students doing aikido make it a dojo. Since the group itself has a name (shiseikan) I think of the group as the dojo, not necessarily the place. At the city hall we don't even have tatami.
neb1979
02-01-2006, 06:40 PM
The commitment and the spirit of the people training.

:)
Dajo251
02-02-2006, 12:36 AM
a rent that is way to high?
Jerry Miller
02-02-2006, 01:09 AM
Mats do help a lot. I have been in a dojo that was moving to a new location. For me it did not feel quite like a dojo until Osensei was watching. Of course without the students you just have a picture.
batemanb
02-02-2006, 01:50 AM
Myself and a few other students were talking about this prior to a lesson the other week.


Did you ask any of the Senior students or instructors? :)
PhilMyKi
02-02-2006, 02:27 AM
Did you ask any of the Senior students or instructors? :)

Bryan,

You initiated the discussion :D it was after we spoke about etiquette. DJ said it was O Sensei's picture and Dennis said it was the students. :)

See you next week!
batemanb
02-02-2006, 03:45 AM
Bryan,

You initiated the discussion :D it was after we spoke about etiquette. DJ said it was O Sensei's picture and Dennis said it was the students. :)

See you next week!


I'm not so sure it's that easy an answer, but, a dojo is just a place to train. You don't need a picture of O Sensei, you don't necessarily need mats, although they are definately preferable to me when practicing nage waza :D.

However, the atmosphere in the dojo is maybe a different question? Largely this is down to the students, but the instructor(s) have a key role to play. As has been mentioned above, it's all about desire and commitment to training. Why don't you come down tonight?

rgds

Bryan
PhilMyKi
02-02-2006, 03:54 AM
Would love to train :D

Butn I have a problem with transport :( If you could PM me somebodys number I will try to make arrangements.
batemanb
02-02-2006, 04:09 AM
Would love to train :D

Butn I have a problem with transport :( If you could PM me somebodys number I will try to make arrangements.

You have a PM
PhilMyKi
02-02-2006, 04:28 AM
See you then
happysod
02-02-2006, 04:42 AM
A dojo is made by deciding space X is now a dojo, its permanence is determined by the commitment of the people using it.
Dajo251
02-02-2006, 08:56 PM
A dojo is made by deciding space X is now a dojo, its permanence is determined by the commitment of the people using it.
simple but a good call