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Neil Mick
07-12-2005, 09:39 PM
Disgusting. :disgust:

That is the only way I can describe my feeling, in this moment.

I am listening to a radio broadcast describing a massacre perpetrated on the residents of Cite Soleil, Haiti. While the world and the media express rightful outrage at the British subway bombing, the tragedy in Haiti goes unnoticed.

Apparently, the UN murdered btw 23-50 ppl at close range, with shots aimed at the heads, of civilians. The act was perpetrated by a Jordanian contingent of the UN.

The story, ignored by the mainstream press, is hard to find, even on the internet. I did find this story (http://www.iacboston.org/haiti/708_UN_massacre.html) about it:

UN forces shot out electric transformers in the neighborhood. People were killed in their homes and also just outside of their homes, on the way to work. According to journalists and eyewitnesses, one man named Leon Cherry, age 46, was shot and killed on his way to work for a flower company. Another man, Mones Belizaire, was shot as he got ready to go work in a local sweatshop and subsequently died from a stomach infection. A woman who was a street vendor was shot in the head and killed instantly.

One man was shot in his ribs while he was trying to brush his teeth. Another man was shot in the jaw as he left his house to try and get some money for his wife's medical costs; he endured a slow death.Yet another man named Mira was shot and killed while urinating in his home.

A mother, Sena Romelus, and her two young children were killed in their home, either by bullets or by a 83-CC grenade UN forces threw. Film footage of many of these deaths was shared with the US human rights delegation. Eyewitnesses claimed that the offensive overwhelmed the community and that there was not a "firefight", but rather a slaughter. The operation was primarily conducted by UN forces, with the Haitian National Police this time taking a back seat.

There will be some downloadable footage available, soon.

Please contact as many of the following as you have time to and tell them that the killing must stop.

Contact Information Lt. General Augusto Heleno Ribeiro Pereira, UN Military Commander in Haiti: 011-509-554-8074, pereira17@un.org. Damian Onses-Cardona, Spokesperson for Gen. Pereira: 011-509-527-5118 (cell), 011-509-510-2563, ext. 6303. Touissant Congo-Doudou, Head of Communications, MINUSTAH: 011-509-557-5906, kongo-doudou@un.org. David Beer, Commissioner of CIVPOL, the UN Civilian Police in Haiti: 011-509-525-5279 beer@un.org, fax: 011-509-244-9366. Juan Gabriel Valdes, Special Representative of the UN Secretary-General to Haiti: 011-509-244-9650 or 9660, fax 011-509 244 3512.

makuchg
07-13-2005, 05:48 AM
This was the only reference I could find: http://www.haitiaction.net/News/HAC/7_10_5.html.

It's like Rawanda again. Not one major news network even mentioned the attack.

Yann Golanski
07-13-2005, 08:19 AM
Remember folks, you cannot spell unethical without the UN...

James Davis
07-13-2005, 11:20 AM
It's like Rawanda again. Not one major news network even mentioned the attack.

It's all about winning and losing. Our representatives on both sides of the aisle are only worried about the stories that might embarass the Bush administration or get their favorite judges on the supreme court's bench. If there's nothing to be gained, the papers probably won't bother to print it. There's do much they don't tell us, for a variety of reasons. :(

Neil, keep doing what you're doing. My wife has done volunteer work in Haitian orphanages and has a lot of love for Haiti and its people. If I hadn't read your thread, neither of us probably would have known.

Thank God for "news junkies". ;)

Janet Rosen
07-13-2005, 11:57 AM
Anybody reading this thread in the SF Bay Area: there is a demo called for Thursday the 21st at Market and Powell at 4 pm then marching to the Brazilian Consulate 300 Montgomery 4:30 pm (it was Lt Gen Augusto Heleno, a Brazilian commander of the UN forces, who called the operation a "success")

Neil Mick
07-14-2005, 03:47 PM
Neil, keep doing what you're doing. My wife has done volunteer work in Haitian orphanages and has a lot of love for Haiti and its people. If I hadn't read your thread, neither of us probably would have known.

Thank God for "news junkies". ;)

Thanks, James. A tip of the virtual bowler to your wife and her volunteer work.

Anybody reading this thread in the SF Bay Area: there is a demo called for Thursday the 21st at Market and Powell at 4 pm then marching to the Brazilian Consulate 300 Montgomery 4:30 pm (it was Lt Gen Augusto Heleno, a Brazilian commander of the UN forces, who called the operation a "success")

Thanks for the alert, Janet. Do you know what group is calling the march?

spinecracker
07-14-2005, 04:18 PM
BBC news carries the story, but it is so different from what else is being reported that I didn't realise that it was supposedly the same incident.

The report can be read here:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4658413.stm

Decide for yourself.

Janet Rosen
07-14-2005, 05:12 PM
BBC news carries the story, but it is so different from what else is being reported that I didn't realise that it was supposedly the same incident.
The report can be read here:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4658413.stm
Decide for yourself.
Quoting from the article: "UN peacekeepers in Haiti have stormed a slum in the capital, Port-au-Prince, killing armed gang members loyal to the country's ousted president."
The "ousted president" was a democratically elected president, forcibly ousted by the United States. So my question (quite rhetorical) is: what government or media outlet gets to define who is a "gang member", who is an insurgent, who is a nationalist, what is a petty criminal, who is a terrorist, who is a paramilitary, who is a patriot?
I don't have an answer to my question, but it applies to all news stories regardless of source, regardless of what country is under discussion....

Janet Rosen
07-14-2005, 05:16 PM
Thanks for the alert, Janet. Do you know what group is calling the march?
Haiti Action Committee; it is not yet on the website; I was handed a preliminary quickly drawn up flier at a different mtg Tues night.
http://www.haitiaction.net

Neil Mick
07-14-2005, 07:26 PM
BBC news carries the story, but it is so different from what else is being reported that I didn't realise that it was supposedly the same incident.

The report can be read here:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4658413.stm

Decide for yourself.

Funny, how the emphasis in the article all seems to be on whether "Dread Wilmey" was killed or not; and no attention was paid to the identity of the other 6 "gunmen" killed. Gotta wonder if the 6yr old murdered, was toting a gun at the time she was shot. Was she one of the gunmen, too? :disgust:

If you don't believe me: look at the photo's of the video, on the haitiaction website: http://www.haitiaction.net . Be warned, tho: these photo's are extremely graphic, not suitable for children.

Thomas Ambrose
07-15-2005, 12:34 AM
Here is CNN's "coverage" for those of you who like to compare sources, though it doesn't say much...

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/americas/07/07/haiti.un.reut/index.html

At any rate... absolutely disgusting incident. I will say no more words for my reaction.

Thank you for posting this here, otherwise I would have never known, and thus never cared... but knowing an ugly truth is better than believing a lie.

Neil Mick
07-21-2005, 04:00 PM
Marches in 10 cities around the US, as well as internationally, are going on today about this massacre. Good luck to all who attend!

Wish I could, but I have to work. :(