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06-26-2005, 01:30 AM
AikiWeb Poll for the week of June 26, 2005:

How physically tired are you usually after one hour of aikido training?

I don't do aikido
Extremely tired
Very tired
Somewhat tired
Not very tired
Not at all tired


Here are the current results (http://www.aikiweb.com/polls/results.html?poll_id=278).

Karen Wolek
06-26-2005, 12:50 PM
I said "very tired", but it depends on the class. Some classes make me extremely tired and some I really don't feel tired at all. Depends on the techniques practiced, the ukemi taken, and the partners I worked with.

If I end up with a one-on-one class with Sensei, I can barely move afterwards. Advanced/freestyle class comes in a close second. If it's a class where I mostly work with beginners, I'm not tired at all. Most classes are somewhere in between, but now that it's a sauna in the dojo.........I end up pretty freakin tired after every class!

malsmith
06-26-2005, 08:48 PM
now that it's a sauna in the dojo.........I end up pretty freakin tired after every class!

amen to that!

Jeanne Shepard
06-26-2005, 11:08 PM
I voted "not very tired" then i remembered the last class...it all depends!

Jeanne

stuartjvnorton
06-26-2005, 11:21 PM
Depends.
A normal class: not really tired at all.
A class heavy on the jiwu waza: knackered.
A hajime class: just about ready to be scraped off the mats.

Zato Ichi
06-27-2005, 03:05 AM
Training in a dojo in the heart of Osaka with no air con in the middle of a Japanese summer (if you've never experienced a Japanese summer, consider yourself very lucky) - dead tired and totally dehydrated.

Having one of the top randori guys in Japan call you over after that class and do a little tanto and toshu randori - praying for the sweet release of death... :D

bbleeker
06-27-2005, 05:34 AM
I voted 'somewhat tired', but really it depends on the class; sometimes I'm not very tired, and other times I'm totally knackered - like the last 2 classes, when it was like training in a sauna (we're having a beautiful summer :-)

Yann Golanski
06-27-2005, 06:01 AM
Haruo-san,

No need for a Japanese summer. We train in a school sport hall: all made of metal and concreet with of course, no air conditioning at all. We now have added water breaks to the Shodokan base practices!!!

happysod
06-27-2005, 06:32 AM
I'd add my vote to "it depends", normally ranges from tired to absolutely knackered, with the added complaint of "who decided we finish with randori?"

Yann, ha! Wuss, in my day tomiki practitioners used to go three days without liquids and felt nowt...

Amir Krause
06-27-2005, 07:05 AM
I wrote not very tired, but in fact it depends, most my practices are after a days work and often I am very tired to begin with. Further, our classes last for slightly more then 2 hours, the first hour is normally not too difficult or we would not be able to finish the lesson.

Amir

Nick Simpson
06-27-2005, 07:05 AM
It depends. Mostly on whos teaching, what they want to get across that class and how much im used as uke. Ive had classes where I hardly broke a sweat and ive had classses where I couldnt get out of bed the next day.

Rupert Atkinson
06-27-2005, 09:21 AM
I hate dojos that only train for an hour - what's the point?

Yann Golanski
06-27-2005, 09:33 AM
Lunchtime class, morning class and other such things.

Try randori for one hour and you'll see it's plenty long enough, even with water breaks.

Amir Krause
06-27-2005, 10:17 AM
One thing that takes me out of breath within minutes, regardless of the shape I am in, is Randori with Sensei. It can be Tai-Jutsu randori, Jo Randori or Kodachi (I am not up to Bokken Randori yet). In each of those the concentration required takes all my energy away swiftly.

Amir

L. Camejo
06-27-2005, 10:42 AM
Hi folks,

I voted "Not Very Tired" since our classes usually go for at least 2 hours, so after the 1st hour we are getting warmed up for randori.:D

Of course being in a non-airconditioned room under the stands of an indoor sports complex in the nicely humid Caribbean there are those who need the occasional water break though. But when it's a seniors only session or randori session however, just call us the "Hot as Hell" Dojo. evileyes During these sessions we have the cooler filled with Beer for First Aid puposes, iow revival of those who have to be dragged off the mat.:)

If Pain is Weakness leaving the body, Sweat is Laziness leaving the body.;) Hooyah!
LC:ai::ki:evileyes

Drew Scott
06-27-2005, 11:31 AM
Sweat is Laziness leaving the body.


Ok, that's going into the permanent file. :D

Regards,
Drew

MaryKaye
06-27-2005, 12:30 PM
When Randy and I were both fifth kyu, he got to take ukemi for sensei for an entire hour. I said afterwards, "I'm so jealous!" and he looked at me with wide eyes and sweat dripping off his hair.

"You know, when everyone else got to sit down, I got to take ukemi...."

Having now had that experience, yeah, it makes a huge difference missing those little demo breaks.

I visited one dojo where I joined and greatly enjoyed their beginner's class, then sat to watch their advanced class, and quickly came to the conclusion that it would have killed me. Not because the ukemi were too difficult, but they did them fast and absolutely relentlessly--the forward ukemi drill looked as though sensei were dribbling his uke, basketball style.

If you sweat *that* much laziness out of my body, there'd be nothing left but a limp deflated sack.

Mary Kaye

Mike.Ordway
06-27-2005, 03:27 PM
I voted very tired because every time I go to Aikido I have to ride my bike there. 2 miles there... 1 hour of aikido then 2 miles back. That takes a lot out of me usually. But hey, in the month ive been doing aikido (yes yes im completely new) I have already lost 7 lbs.

maikerus
06-27-2005, 08:17 PM
I hate dojos that only train for an hour - what's the point?

If the alternative is no training????

You can do a lot in an hour.

--Michael

xuzen
06-27-2005, 10:09 PM
Training in a dojo in the heart of Osaka with no air con in the middle of a Japanese summer (if you've never experienced a Japanese summer, consider yourself very lucky) - dead tired and totally dehydrated.

Horisan,

You poor thug... is Osaka a city in a third world country? Hmmm maybe I should donate my used air-con units to you poor souls.
:D :D :D (Kidding!)

Anyway... you lucky bast@rd, you have the top people to train with. I guess I should be very afraid to face you in the mat if I ever have a chance.

Train well Horisan.

Boon.

PeterR
06-27-2005, 11:22 PM
I have a new dojo group pic I will up-load. We will play spot the Shodothug. It will take a day or so for Jun to approve. Note the level of sweat.

happysod
06-28-2005, 03:27 AM
There's one! (points upwards)

PeterR
06-28-2005, 03:30 AM
True - they are all Shodothugs in the pici. But which one is Hori-san?
Pici not yet approved - too scary maybe.

happysod
06-28-2005, 04:08 AM
Pici not yet approved - too scary maybe. probably, I want at least a 16Yuck rating on this (18Yuck for us fruities of course - sweat, the very idea..)

eva
06-28-2005, 04:10 AM
I voted "somewhat tired" but it really depends on who is teaching, who I'm training with (with beginners you usually get a lot more "standing around while sorting feet and hands" than with more advanced folks).... and it definitely depends on the weather: last night in this hot weather I already felt a bit tired after about 5 minutes of jo suburi (but the level of tiredness didn't really increase during the rest of the two hours.... )
Eva

CNYMike
06-30-2005, 02:21 AM
I voted "very tired;" I think it's having to get up a few hundred times that does it for me.