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Jixy
12-01-2004, 09:29 AM
I am sure this question has been addressed many time but I could not find it, so bear with me...

Before putting on the hakama, do you put on your gi belt (brown or black belt)? Or is the belt eliminated for the ties that come with the hakama?

Also, please include a link where I can get the names of the parts of a hakama.

jixy

aikidoc
12-01-2004, 09:40 AM
Gi belt helps hold the hakama on the body.

DarkShodan
12-01-2004, 09:54 AM
It is easier with the belt. I have seen it done without the belt, but it tends to slip.

Don't know the parts of the hakama, only the plate in the back is called the "koshiita" I believe, and I probably spelled that wrong. Nope, that's right, I looked it up. That part goes in the back. So that's all I know....front, back, top, bottom. Every time I put my hakama on it reminds me of when I used to saddle a horses. Not saying I'm fat, just that it ties the same...kind of...never mind. ;-)

John Boswell
12-01-2004, 10:20 AM
Hakama questions of all kinds are out there. One good source is Bu Jin Design:

http://www.bujindesign.com/faq-hakama.html

I'm sure you could also e-mail them questions, but the best source for any individual would be... guess who? Your Sensei !!

I know when I was first starting out in aikido, I was terribly intimdated by my instructor and classmates because they were all in aikido for years and I was the only white belt at the time. I felt like any question I could ask was "stupid" or "dumb" and just a waste of their time. Wrong! EVERYONE has these questions and really good aikidoka will be more than happy to answer any question you might have, so long as you ASK it.

Remember, we've all been rookies in something at one point. Besides, no two instructors or sensei will ever be the same and many have their own idea of how things should be done... so they are your best source for answers to the questions you come up with.

Good luck and train hard!

suren
12-01-2004, 01:58 PM
Hakama ties do not eliminate belt. The way to tie hakama that I know invloves moving the ties under gi in several places. If there is no gi, you can not do that do you?
Another good source of information on hakama and many other things is http://www.aikidofaq.com

John Boswell
12-01-2004, 02:27 PM
Suren,

I thought that would be a good link too, but didn't find anything specific there. Can you find something and link it?

As far as tying the hakama goes, here's Bu Jin's link on that: http://www.bujindesign.com/use_hakama.html

Hey Jun, Ask Sensei if I'm gonna get any discounts for all these recommendations and links, eh? SHEESH! You'd think I owned stock or something... which I don't. :p

Jixy
12-01-2004, 06:39 PM
Hi John, the link is a bit tricky but it is there. Here is the direct link to the Hakama section:

http://www.aikidofaq.com/bilder/hakama/hakama_tying.html

CC

John Boswell
12-02-2004, 11:46 AM
Excellent! Thank you. I surfed that site for 20 mins. and couldn't find that. :freaky:

...maybe I shouldn't be admitting that? LOL :D

oudbruin
12-04-2004, 08:25 AM
Those "TIES" that everyone refers to, are called "HIMO"
Depending on what ryu you are in, the himo can be tucked out of the way(as for kendo), some ryu indicate ok to make a nice bow in the back (by the koshita) or a nice bow in the front fro some aikido and iaido ryu.
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there is no significence on color of the himo or hak color in most ryu-I have been to IAIDO classes where everyone wore a white hak...and i showed up in all black- no-one poo-poo'ed
good luck and congrats- now ya just have to keep from getting tangled up in that blamed thing...
bruce