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stern9631
10-08-2004, 09:50 AM
Does anyone ever work on how to hit a wall if pushed from the front or the rear?

Robert Jackson
10-08-2004, 12:23 PM
I never have although I'd imagine it would be exactly like taking a standard backfall. Just your standing up...

willy_lee
10-08-2004, 08:08 PM
Can't say I've seriously trained it but I've played with it a bit. Keep your head from smashing is the important thing. Try to keep balance. When hitting back-first I usually don't slap for whatever reason. Look at how hockey players take a check into the boards. It mostly is like a breakfall except standing, except for keeping your balance. You can use vertical movement to get out of the way of force as well.

Saw a Systema tape that had some drills for being backed up against a wall or in a corner. Mobility is still important, using sliding movements.

=wl

Bronson
10-08-2004, 11:08 PM
We were working from a two handed front choke where uke had nage against a wall. When Sensei did the technique and spun around so I hit the wall I noticed I had landed in a side breakfallish position. It wasn't perfect because of the slightly different body postition but it was definitely recongnizable :D

Oh, and we never practiced landing on walls this way....it just happened.

Bronson

Bronson
10-08-2004, 11:32 PM
Does anyone ever work on how to hit a wall if pushed from the front or the rear?

Oh yeah, if I could be allowed to nitpick a little, landing on a wall would be vertical ukemi.

:)

Bronson

markwalsh
10-09-2004, 04:34 AM
I practice backwards ukemi into walls, using my feet to meet and absorb the impact. As has been said, its just a floor that happens to be 90 degrees in the wrong place.

Mark

raul rodrigo
10-09-2004, 07:03 AM
Does anyone ever work on how to hit a wall if pushed from the front or the rear?


My first dojo, Kishi Dojo in Manila, had a large pillar in the center. So when thrown hard toward it, we all developed the standing ukemi: roll to your feet and slam both hands on the pillar. So by force of circumstance, we worked on that technique quite a lot.


R

p00kiethebear
10-10-2004, 04:30 PM
Oh yeah, if I could be allowed to nitpick a little, landing on a wall would be vertical ukemi.

<too much free time>

Not if the type of the ukemi is determined by the direction of motion rather than the placement of the falling area. In which case, falling vertically to the floor would be vertical ukemi and falling horizontally towards the wall would be horizontal ukemi.

</too much free time>

mj
10-10-2004, 04:40 PM
What matters is the ability to increase/decrease friction along the line of the roll.