Aikidoka as better lovers? [Archive]

DiNalt

02-25-2001, 01:49 AM

shadow wrote:
DiNalt wrote:
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I think your post is vulgar.

why? I'm just mucking around......it's only as vulgar as your own mind [/B]

Okay then, would you kindly explain what you _really_ did have in mind, because yours truly is at a loss ?

Thank you.

aiki-victim

02-25-2001, 05:46 AM

Well, it was obviously said in jest, and I found it funny.

orenb

02-25-2001, 05:54 AM

me too, i can't believe anyone can be so insecure to find this post insulting.

Jim23

02-25-2001, 08:50 AM

shadow wrote:
in aikido there is a lot of emphasis on hip movement and using a strong and 3-dimensional hip. Do you think this makes us aikidoka better lovers? ;)

No way (I actually said 'Way' - and it felt good). Most are too short-tempered. ;)

Gim23

DiNalt

02-25-2001, 03:16 PM

orenb wrote:
me too, i can't believe anyone can be so insecure to find this post insulting.

I don't see what this has to do with "security" or lack thereof.

Perhaps vulgar was a somewhat rough translation.

Forgive me, English is my second language

I think "stupid" would be a closer match to what I had in mind.

andrew

02-26-2001, 04:37 AM

DiNalt wrote:
I don't see what this has to do with "security" or lack thereof.

Perhaps vulgar was a somewhat rough translation.

Forgive me, English is my second language

I think "stupid" would be a closer match to what I had in mind.

I think you've got an insulting tone here. I don't know if you _really_ wanted that. What the hell,though- your reply has made me laugh out loud.
andrew

Guest5678

02-26-2001, 06:24 AM

Quote from DiNalt on other thread: (Who is everyone)

"I enjoy my girls lightly grilled with a bottle of nice Chianti.
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Aleksey S"

OK DiNalt,

Please, tell us again just what it is you found "vulgar/stupid" about shadows question........?

You seem to be hitting both sides of the fence here. Hey, if you live in a glass house......jeeez!!

Regards,

Dan P. - Mongo

ian

02-26-2001, 07:13 AM

I think it can be counter-productive; as you get better at aikido you are more able to do the techniques in one quick and dynamic movement.

Also, focus on the one-point generally leads to tedium; though maybe good extension can be of help.

Ian

P.S. as far as I know 'Aiki' does also refer to love-making.

[Edited by ian on February 26, 2001 at 07:15am]

DiNalt

02-26-2001, 01:11 PM

Mongo wrote:
Quote from DiNalt on other thread: (Who is everyone)

"I enjoy my girls lightly grilled with a bottle of nice Chianti.
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Aleksey S"

That's a humorous reference to the movie which is currently in the theaters.

What was that about the glass house, again ?

Dan Hover

02-26-2001, 01:52 PM

and by picking that quote what does it say about you? and what does that say to others about you? It merely shows what you think is humorous, same with the question "aikidoka as better lovers"
You are evaluated by you words online as your actions are unseen by most in cyberspace, so choose them wisely they may reveal too much.

still throwing stones
still living in the glass house
still not caring

DiNalt

02-26-2001, 02:08 PM

Dan Hover wrote:
and by picking that quote what does it say about you? and what does that say to others about you? It merely shows what you think is humorous, same with the question "aikidoka as better lovers"
You are evaluated by you words online as your actions are unseen by most in cyberspace, so choose them wisely they may reveal too much.

still throwing stones
still living in the glass house
still not caring

That quote is actually also a part of a running joke in that thread, where people made the last part of their post to look like a mock-up of a personal ad.

Yes, I think mine is funny, and I'm not alone, too.

As for the creator of this thread, shadow, he asked the readers, what do they think ?

I told him what I think.

That's not a universal opinion, I don't deny that others may think differently, but I expressed my, personal, opinion.

And no-one is denied the right to think whatever they want about *my* joke, as well.

As for your vague references to "revealing too much", I don't know where you're going with this, I don't know whether you know that yourself, but in any case, combined with that repeating ending, you're starting to freak me out.

Would you like to check my garage for corpses, or something ?

Gee-zus !

Guest5678

02-26-2001, 02:23 PM

DiNalt,

I'm not going to get into a quote war with you. I understand English is not your native language so, in case you truly do not understand my comment about the glass house, I'll try to break it down for you. Stay with me here.

Shadow has humor.
DiNalt has humor.
Shadow expresses humor.
DiNalt throws rocks at shadows humor although DiNalt has same humor he throws rocks at.

Thus the term glass house and throwing rocks...... please let me know if you still need assistance understanding this.....

Regards,
Dan P. - Mongo

DiNalt

02-26-2001, 02:38 PM

Mongo wrote:
DiNalt,

I'm not going to get into a quote war with you. I understand English is not your native language so, in case you truly do not understand my comment about the glass house, I'll try to break it down for you. Stay with me here.

Shadow has humor.
DiNalt has humor.
Shadow expresses humor.
DiNalt throws rocks at shadows humor although DiNalt has same humor he throws rocks at.

Thus the term glass house and throwing rocks...... please let me know if you still need assistance understanding this.....

Regards,
Dan P. - Mongo

Dear Dan,

I am perfectly aware of the "Don't throw rocks if you're living in a glass house" proverb.

However, the fact whether my sense of humor is the same as shadow's , is a matter of opinion.

In your opinion, it is, and I'm throwing rocks while living in a glass house.

In my opinion, our "jokes" were sufficiently different, and I'm not living in a glass house, plus I still think the original post was stupid.

This is my opinion which I'm entitled to express, especially considering that the poster's intent was to get feedback.

Which I gave to him.

If you need any assistance understanding that... well... go ask someone else.

I give up.

shadow

02-27-2001, 03:04 AM

wow....I sparked off some real fire here, still didn't get any answers or opinions from anyone though!

much can happen in the two days I miss of checking the board......

oh well, sorry to offend you...was it dinalt? anyway dude it was just a mucking around opinion, and well training in aikido has helped in ALL facets of my life, I'm just wondering if it's the same for others....and wether we budoka once and for all can truly classify ourselves as superior specimens of human beings ;) hehehehehe so dinalt, does aikido make YOU a better lover?

Steve Speicher

02-27-2001, 08:22 AM

I'm just mad I didn't think of this first. I'm going to be a strong proponent of 'aikido makes better lovers' and won't hesitate to let my dates know that I am a practitioner of aikido and a firm believer in that statement. :D

And if my Russian friend from school ever returns home (aleksey you are living in Russia right?) I'll make sure to have him go check that garage for corpses!!

DiNalt

02-27-2001, 11:21 AM

Steve Speicher wrote:
I'm just mad I didn't think of this first. I'm going to be a strong proponent of 'aikido makes better lovers' and won't hesitate to let my dates know that I am a practitioner of aikido and a firm believer in that statement. :D

And if my Russian friend from school ever returns home (aleksey you are living in Russia right?) I'll make sure to have him go check that garage for corpses!!

Yes, I live in Russia, I drink vodka everyday, and every other day I march on the Red Square, wearing extremely thick clothing, as the neverending snow keeps falling down on the ground... and on my garage...

DiNalt

02-27-2001, 11:48 AM

shadow wrote:
wow....I sparked off some real fire here, still didn't get any answers or opinions from anyone though!

much can happen in the two days I miss of checking the board......

oh well, sorry to offend you...was it dinalt? anyway dude it was just a mucking around opinion, and well training in aikido has helped in ALL facets of my life, I'm just wondering if it's the same for others....and wether we budoka once and for all can truly classify ourselves as superior specimens of human beings ;) hehehehehe so dinalt, does aikido make YOU a better lover?

Aikido helps enhance my capacity to love people.
I haven't been attending for a month.

Can you tell ? ;)

Erik

02-27-2001, 01:14 PM

DiNalt wrote:
Yes, I live in Russia, I drink vodka everyday

Do you do the garlic thing with your vodka?

DiNalt

02-27-2001, 01:28 PM

Erik wrote:
DiNalt wrote:
Yes, I live in Russia, I drink vodka everyday

Do you do the garlic thing with your vodka?

Yes I pour vodka on my garlic plants to help them grow.

Sophie

02-27-2001, 04:42 PM

Aikidoka as better lovers?

Perhaps the reverse is true: good lovers make better Aikidoka, especially since the more relaxed you are,the better.

-Sophie

Erik

02-27-2001, 05:42 PM

DiNalt wrote:
Yes I pour vodka on my garlic plants to help them grow.

Actually, smart guy, I've spent time in Mother Russia. This particular combination (excluding the plants) was consumed semi-regularly while I was there and I actually thought it was fairly decent. It seemed to take the edge off the vodka. I've never seen it done here though.

DiNalt

02-28-2001, 12:57 AM

Erik wrote:
DiNalt wrote:
Yes I pour vodka on my garlic plants to help them grow.

Actually, smart guy, I've spent time in Mother Russia. This particular combination (excluding the plants) was consumed semi-regularly while I was there and I actually thought it was fairly decent. It seemed to take the edge off the vodka. I've never seen it done here though.

Here's an analogy for you, Erik.

Suppose that aliens traveled from another galaxy and landed on Earth.

Particularly, they landed in a small American town which is full of redneck drunks.

Then they flew back to their home planet.

Imagine what they'll tell their superiors about Earth.

Erik

02-28-2001, 10:25 AM

DiNalt wrote:
Here's an analogy for you, Erik.

Suppose that aliens traveled from another galaxy and landed on Earth.

Particularly, they landed in a small American town which is full of redneck drunks.

Then they flew back to their home planet.

Imagine what they'll tell their superiors about Earth.

Actually, if they could fly all the way here, one would expect aliens to be smart enough to notice that there are people all over this planet and to conduct a more dispassionate study. Then again, the differences are probably a lot smaller than we typically imagine.

Obviously, you think I'm implying that all the people in the former Soviet Union sat around all day drinking vodka and nothing else. This would be wrong, I also saw the consumption of lots of other kinds of alcohol while I was there.

Sorry, I couldn't resist that one and it was a cheap shot.

PS: I did genuinely enjoy that drink.

DiNalt

02-28-2001, 01:02 PM

Erik wrote:

Actually, if they could fly all the way here, one would expect aliens to be smart enough to notice that there are people all over this planet and to conduct a more dispassionate study. Then again, the differences are probably a lot smaller than we typically imagine.

Obviously, you think I'm implying that all the people in the former Soviet Union sat around all day drinking vodka and nothing else. This would be wrong, I also saw the consumption of lots of other kinds of alcohol while I was there.

Sorry, I couldn't resist that one and it was a cheap shot.

PS: I did genuinely enjoy that drink.

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They ran out of fuel, but thankfully they were able to make just enough to get back home by robbing drunks in that redneck town and recycling the alcohol.

Erik

02-28-2001, 01:50 PM

DiNalt wrote:
They ran out of fuel, but thankfully they were able to make just enough to get back home by robbing drunks in that redneck town and recycling the alcohol.

What I'm really wondering is if the prez ordered them to carpet bomb Pluto on their way home. I've heard rumours that Pluto is an Iraqui no-fly zone but the government will neither confirm nor deny this one. I believe it's all a government coverup.

[Edited by Erik on February 28, 2001 at 01:54pm]

Mike Collins

02-28-2001, 05:44 PM

Aikidoka make better lovers???!!??

I've been married for 20 years!

If I trained as often as I make love, I'd have a new teacher every class, cause the old ones would keep retiring.

Course then again, my wife and my teacher both give me the same look of disappointment and disapproval after a performance, so maybe you're on to something.

And I do fall better than I throw. Maybe I'm concentrating on the wrong part of the art.

Mabuse

03-01-2001, 04:46 AM

If there's one thing I've learned, it's never to make jokes about sex in an international forum. You never know who's culture you're dealing with.

That said, here's some British humour on the subject < http://www.reberhardt.freeserve.co.uk/aikido/10reasons.htm>.

akiy

03-01-2001, 08:19 AM

Mikey wrote:
And I do fall better than I throw. Maybe I'm concentrating on the wrong part of the art.
Not in my mind...

-- Jun

03-01-2001, 09:23 AM

Good one Mikey! LOL! :D

I'm sure glad I don't get tested on making love. I'm afraid to think what the rank requirements might be! :eek: ;)

P.S. - Maybe this thread should be moved to the Humor section to avoid any misunderstandings by some folks?

jxa127

03-01-2001, 11:34 AM

FWIW, I think good Aikido and good lovemaking share a lot of the same principles: sensitivity to your partner, a good sense of where both bodies are in space and in relation to each other, the ability to find ...um...openings (couldn't resist that one). :)

Aikido can make for some good play time -- even when fully clothed. There was one time when I was over at her apartment and she decided to attack me. I was on my hands and knees on her bed -- I think I was trying to get something that had slipped down between the bed and the wall. Anyway, my fiancee jumped on my back, but before all of her weight had settled on me, I took her wrist, popped up my hips, and gently took her over my shoulder and onto her bed. The whole throw only lasted a split second.

The look on her face after she suddenly found herself on her back and looking up at me instead of on my back and looking down at me was priceless. ;)

-Drew Ames

Yo-Jimbo

03-01-2001, 01:54 PM

To keep this fun, and yet out of the humor section...
This question is not easy to answer. Can a corrilation be shown between sexual performance and aikido practice (normalized for basic, natural sexual prowess)? If there is a relationship, is it causal or just corrilative? Perhaps, aikido doesn't make one a better lover, but better lovers are drawn to practicing aikido. Both factors could be mixing in the system. Experiments on people are so hard to do scientifically and ethically. My sensei doesn't think that other apes can do aikido and I'm to busy/lazy to prove him wrong there. Once again the problem is proving whether chimps can/can't do aikido or Jim can/can't teach chimps aikido. If weekly practice were any indication, some biologist out there should miss the whole point and start argueing with me about whether humans and chimps are technically "apes".