Aikido ,or TKO???

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[kidokid]

I'm very new at Aikido,and understand very little . I have trained for only 3 months with two different instructors .
Tonight at my dojo we were doing freestyle . We started out with grabs .
One of the blackbelts was a bit stubbord
and resisted a technique given by the instructor . A counter I geuss! A hard headbutt , and then a takedown . I thought oh well! Maybe he had that one coming . Then we started doing punching , One of the white belts got very brave . Instead of a punch he went for the kill and took my instructor to the ground. he held his own , but later paid the price with headbutt and a bloody nose and to the ground by a # 4
My instructor is very nice . I don't know what the white belt was thinking . When I ask a few people thet saw it one replyed with a quote from Mark Twain; A man that picks up a cat by the tail knows 40% more about cats than the rest of the world( something like that! )
It was a full moon ! Someone through me a bone here !

[Edited by kidokid on January 10, 2001 at 09:11am]

[DiNalt]

kidokid wrote:
Well I'm new at this ...


You're very new at what ?

[DiNalt]

DiNalt wrote:
kidokid wrote:
Well I'm new at this ...


You're very new at what ?

I meant, "You're new at what ?"

For some reason I imagined there was the word "very" in the original sentence.

[Sam]

I hope this is a joke. I was appalled to read of a typical nights training.
If you want my advice leave the club for these reasons
1. The instructor is clearly not in control of the class - this means anything could happen
2. An instuctor who has to rely on brute force to dominate a student is clearly unskilled.
3. An instructor who is surprised by a beginner and taken to the floor has nothing to teach you.

I presume this is a taekwondo class? leave the TKO and stick with aikido.

[nikonl]

There should'nt be any injuries in Aikido training. If there is,its usually because of your own mistakes. Your instructor obviously doesn't respect the art(whichever you are talking about)

[kidokid]

This is know joke this really happened
and yes this is Aikido. No TKD here, only Tomiki Aikido . I was very suprized myself , and I am very glad that you feel this isn,t how we should pratice.
I thought it was very strange that when I asked around the dojo people just shrugged it off like it didn't happen.
Domo arigato gozamasta !

[dainippon99]

man. i would definately say that you need to find a new instructor. i practice tomiki, and some of my instructors have been taken down by a student before, and they just countered or laughed and went on with the randori. This sensei of yours sounds quite abusive. And as most of us have come to find, abusive instructors are not good (simply put)

[Erik]

I read your post some time ago and I've really struggled with answering it. I would say in general that I personally would run from that type of environment for a couple of reasons.

1. No control by the instructor.
2. I don't want to be hurt all things being equal.

However, having said that, I don't know why the students did what they did. Maybe there is an agreement between the students and the instructor that this sort of thing is ok? I doubt there are many amongst us, who in a dire time, wouldn't respond with a head butt if needed. Personally, I have tackled sensei before and wound up wrestling them on the ground but there was always a clear agreement that it was ok. In fact, where I train this sort of thing isn't all that uncommon but blood and contact is. We take care of each other.

Without knowing the why, it is hard to judge, but personally I don't need head butts at this point in my life.