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Usagi Yojimbo
12-21-2003, 05:58 PM
Anyone know if there's any Aikido instruction for 2 sword style? I wanted to pick up a wooden wakasashi, but I got no idea where I can find some instruction for this....

Oh, and where do I find a boat paddle? Must use Aiki-boat paddle!

Fred Little
12-21-2003, 07:30 PM
http://www.aiki.com/store/products.asp?id=52

Look at the bottom of the page and you'll find something along the lines of what you're looking for.

Fred Little

Hanna B
12-21-2003, 08:14 PM
Oh, and where do I find a boat paddle? Must use Aiki-boat paddle!
What is this?!?

John Boswell
12-21-2003, 10:15 PM
Ipe Wood Suburito





The matching Ipe Suburito is a compact faceted "paddle" design, looks very sleek, and weighs approximately 3 pounds. Heavier than it appears due to the density of Brazilian Ipe, it gives a great workout for wrists, arms and center. Like the Ipe Bokken, it is properly balanced and comes packaged in its own fabric sleeve and box.
http://www.bujindesign.com/weapons5.html

It would be something like this... unless someone knows of a Paddle-Ryu of some sort that I've not heard of. ;)

Michael Hackett
12-21-2003, 11:17 PM
Ah, remember the "Samurai Triolgy"? Musashi carved a boat oar into a bokken for his battle on the island instead of using his sword.

Michael Young
12-22-2003, 10:24 AM
Soatome Sensei has an entire Aikido 2 sword system. I haven't yet had the opportunity to attend any of his 2 sword Seminars (not quite ready for it, since I have just started training in Saotome's weapon's style. A fellow Yudansha at my dojo just attended the 2 sword seminar in Florida, and was very happy with it (of course). I don't know of any other Shihan that teach a two sword system as it relates to Aikido. Are there any others out there? The video would be a good start, and then if you would like to attend a seminar, keep your eye on the ASU website's calender page, there will probably be another two sword seminar toward the end of next year:

http://www.asu.org/cgi-bin/display-cal.cgi

Good luck,

Mike

Usagi Yojimbo
12-22-2003, 10:26 AM
Well yeah, there is that. But I first heard of the boat paddle at the first Aikido Seminar I went to. I was just observing, and took the time to poke through the Dojo's flyers, and in there it mentioned weapons techniques with Tanto, Jo, Bokken, and Okinawa Boat paddle. Since then, I've been wondering about those boat paddle techniques.... Always thought it'd be kinda cool to be a martial arts master using a boat paddle

Hanna B
12-22-2003, 01:33 PM
Okinawa stuff in aikido?!? I do believe that dojo had misunderstood one or two things.

Usagi Yojimbo
12-22-2003, 10:02 PM
Well is there not a possibility that someone could remove a boat paddle from Okinawa and take it to mainland Japan?

zachbiesanz
12-22-2003, 11:35 PM
It's called the "eku", and is primarily used by practitioners of okinawan karate.

This site offers some explanation and pictures: http://www.angelfire.com/ak4/tw/Okinawan_Weapons.html

Apparantly, as it was a weapon available on beaches, many eku kata include moves that resemble using the oar to throw sand in someone's face. How's that for atemi?

Fred Little
12-23-2003, 11:28 AM
It's called the "eku", and is primarily used by practitioners of okinawan karate.

This site offers some explanation and pictures: http://www.angelfire.com/ak4/tw/Okinawan_Weapons.html

Apparantly, as it was a weapon available on beaches, many eku kata include moves that resemble using the oar to throw sand in someone's face. How's that for atemi?
This is a bit of a tangent to the thrust of the original questions, but anyway.....

Last year I had the pleasure of observing the head of my wife's karate system, (Kayo Ong S.,Chi-I-Do Goju Ryu Karate) run through an impromptu demonstration of an eku form and some related bunkai.

I was struck by a number of movements that looked very similar to some nagamaki work I had seen elsewhere. So I asked him about it.

His answer, (in very rough paraphrase) was: "How do you know that? It's closer to a large kuan-dao with a relatively short handle than a nagamaki, but basically, yes. It will work as oar, and it will also work as a bladed weapon, but you can't get into quite as much trouble for just practicing with an oar."

Best,

Fred Little