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08-19-2003, 12:20 AM
Hi all, I'm new to the forums and I have been training in Aikido for about 10 months. I am now 5th kyu.

My brother commented that even though I had only been attending Aikido classes for 10 months, I had already graded twice. He felt that was very quick.

I do have a background in Kung Fu and my instructor had mentioned that I had natural coordination and 'flow'. How do you feel about my progression. Is it common?

Just curious.

Paul Sanderson-Cimino
08-19-2003, 01:43 AM
In my (Yoshokai) dojo at college, we grade every couple months, at least for the first ranks. (Until something like 4th kyu.) Then again, we have a 9-kyu system.

Anyway, it doesn't sound like you need to fear going too fast. My current philosophy is that I test when I feel I can do a good job with whatever techniques are on the list. (There's always room for improvement, but when I get it down pretty well, I consider myself 'ready' to test on it.) However long that happens to take for any particular rank.

08-19-2003, 01:20 PM
Most organizations have rapid grading timeframes in the beginning which then quickly spread out to 9 months to a year or more between ranks.

08-19-2003, 02:41 PM
i have had many students that has "zipped" up the low kyu ranks. So, i don't think it's strange at all.

Just make sure when you hit a plateau that you are able to realize it, and not get too frustrated. I have had this happen more than once.

Lyle Bogin
08-19-2003, 02:42 PM
Your progression is common.

08-19-2003, 05:58 PM
Thanks for the quick responses.

I'm feeling a lot happier now.


:ai: :ki: :do:

08-20-2003, 04:49 AM
Yep, when I started I progressed very quickly. However many people find they reach a plataeu. Don't be dissapointed when you reach this stage because you have been used to rapid progression - you have to work through it!

I have noticed whilst instructing that some people are good body mimics or have good coordination. However people who have poor coordination seem to take longer to learn but once it is ingrained it stays there forever - however I've only had a little experience instructing.


Yann Golanski
08-20-2003, 05:03 AM
Shodokan wise and in my dojo, the first few grades (8th to 6th kyu) are done really fast. It's more to give biginners a taste of what's to come. You should be able to be a 6th kyu after six months.

Then it's at least 6 months between grades till 1 kyu. So, about 2 years to get to first kyu. Total of 3 years of Aikido.

Then it's at least a year before you can take the shodan exam. So, to get a shodan you have to train for at least 4 years.

Of course, some people manage to double grade especially at the start. It's easy to jump from kyuless to 7th or even 6th if you have done martial arts before.

Of course by the time you reach shodan, you realise that you still have a long long long way to go before understanding aikido. Which is fun if humbling.

``Don't quite, don't die.''

08-20-2003, 08:10 AM
Ians post reminds me of a Buddhist saying about the three types of horses (and pardon me if I don't write it absolutely correctly, it is a little hazy).

The first type of horse is fast and elegant; nimble and quick to learn. This horse runs fast and responds with merely a hint of leg or crop, like it can read it's riders mind.

The second kind of horse is steady and able but takes more directing and coaxing. This horse will do what it is asked, but not intuitively like the first.

The third type of horse is slow to learn, slow to move, doesn't seem to respond well. The rider often has to whip the horse into action.

If asked, almost everyone would prefer to be the first kind of horse, but ultimately all can prevail. The third horse, when it does learn, learns down to the marrow of its bones.

Again, I probably didn't relate this one exactly right, but the jist of it is here. Basically that it is okay to be the slow one, just as it is okay to be the fastest learner or the middle learner.

So, right now you are the first horse, but realize at some time you will be the second horse, and some times you will be the third. As long as you don't quit, you prevail.