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Cyrijl
07-17-2003, 12:09 PM
It seems to me that alot of the people who are against 'violence' on this board are very passive agressive. When people ask about self-defense or trsting the efficacy of their aikido they get snide remarks or are sometimes passed off with patronizing comments. To me this is worse than outward agression because not only do some members engage in this hostility, but it is then covered with deception.
Unfortunately, I have seen this more on this board than any other i have been to.

shihonage
07-17-2003, 12:33 PM
Try AikidoJournal forums.

They will make Aikiweb look like heaven with dancing rabbits and flying fairies who give out free ice-cream.

aiki_what
07-17-2003, 12:45 PM
Ice Cream! I didn't get no damn ice cream! Someone's going to pay!

rachmass
07-17-2003, 12:50 PM
This forum has people from all walks of life posting on it, and all levels of experience. It is just a cross-section of humanity; people working on themselves (and some who have given up), so of course there will be passive-agressive posts, in addition to agressive posts, and just all sorts of different posts.

I'll take some strawberry ice cream please...

Lyle Bogin
07-17-2003, 01:48 PM
Personally i'll take passive agression over outward agression any day. At least if it's passive it won't kill you.

Besides, message board are always so out of context. I just can't take it all that seriously.

Strawberry ice cream sounds great, btw...

deepsoup
07-17-2003, 02:18 PM
Personally i'll take passive agression over outward agression any day. At least if it's passive it won't kill you.

Besides, message board are always so out of context. I just can't take it all that seriously.

Strawberry ice cream sounds great, btw...
a) I'm the opposite: I'd much prefer someone trying to whack me upside the head than just messing with my head. At least with "active agressive" you see it coming.

b) True, with you 100% on that one.

c) I discovered some gorgeous creme fraiche and blackcurrant ice cream made by Yeo Valley (very good UK organic dairy). Immediately got hooked, and then they stopped making it. Grrrr!

Sean

x

Qatana
07-17-2003, 02:20 PM
re: discontinued ice cream

Ben & Jerry Chocolate Cherry Garcia!!

willy_lee
07-17-2003, 02:27 PM
c) I discovered some gorgeous creme fraiche and blackcurrant ice cream made by Yeo Valley (very good UK organic dairy).
Mmmmm, creme fraiche.... love the stuff. I could eat it all day!

=wl

Kensai
07-17-2003, 02:44 PM
The one thing Yanks do well is ICE CREAM!

However, Cornish Cream with Strawberry sauce is lovely!

*Ukemi's to fridge to get some*

Alfonso
07-17-2003, 02:51 PM
Can you give some examples of passive agressive behavior on this board?

if it is so prevalent, it shouldn't be hard to find some.

maybe this would help people understand themselves better?

deepsoup
07-17-2003, 02:56 PM
re: discontinued ice cream

Ben & Jerry Chocolate Cherry Garcia!!
They've discontinued Cherry Garcia!?!

Outrage! :eek:

bob_stra
07-17-2003, 03:42 PM
It seems to me that alot of the people who are against 'violence' on this board are very passive agressive.
The hell you say...!!

So, who do I have to STAB to get some of this Chocolate rabbit ice cream?

;-)

akiy
07-17-2003, 03:49 PM
Dang -- maybe I should start carrying AikiIce Cream in the AikiWeb AikiStore...

-- Jun, who sometimes makes homemade ice cream...

opherdonchin
07-17-2003, 03:52 PM
Hey, I make snide comments any time I hear people talking about fighting on this board. I figure (1) if they want a fight, why not start here, (2) fighting fair isn't really fighting. I keep my own score and award myself 1 point if they are too wimpy to respond and 5 points if they respond in a way that means I get their center. I also get a point if I think my snide comment was more clever than their response. I like to win, so they don't get any points no matter what.

:D

Personally, I like coffee ice cream and I'm still -- from college days -- a fan of Toscannini's ice cream in Cambridge, Massachusetts.

Qatana
07-17-2003, 03:53 PM
so Jun, what do we gotta do for a Taste?

can you make chocolate with whole cherries & chips???

Janet Rosen
07-17-2003, 04:06 PM
fresh sorbet from organically grown lychees...mmmmmmmm

oh? this isn't foodweb.com?

dang....

PhilJ
07-17-2003, 04:20 PM
Blunt introspection can be a brutal challenge. It used to be for me... nothing worse than flying off the handle, only to realize later the absurdity of my words.

But it's all a part of human nature. So far, the way I count it, there is one of every kind of person on the planet, with new kinds made every day.

Reality has a way of implementing the "what goes around..." motto. People will get exactly what they're looking for if they're not careful, and that's okay -- happens to me all the time.

What someone says or does on a web board doesn't affect me directly, so why bother worrying. It's a nice day out there, don't let some bits and bytes take control away from you.

*Phil

Alfonso
07-17-2003, 04:55 PM
If passive / agressive were an ice-cream

what flavor would it be?

Qatana
07-17-2003, 05:43 PM
just guess. c'mon, just try to guess.

Aemon_
07-17-2003, 07:31 PM
passive agressive
anyone want to give a good definition?

later

edit: i'm not trolling or anything, i just dont know exactly what it means

YEME
07-17-2003, 08:16 PM
Some Basic traits of Passive Aggressive:

*FEAR OF COMPETITION - Feeling inadequate, is unable to compete with others in work and love. May operate either as a self-sabotaging wimp with a pattern of failure, or be the tyrant, setting himself/herself up as unassailable and perfect, needing to eliminate any threat to his/her power.

*OBSTRUCTIONISM - Just tell a p/a what you want, no matter how small, and he/she may promise to get it for you. But won't say when, and will do it deliberately slowly just to frustrate you. Maybe won't comply at all. Blocks any real progress he/she sees to your getting your way.

*FOSTERING CHAOS - The p/a prefers to leave the puzzle incomplete, the job undone.

*FEELING VICTIMIZED - The p/a protests that others unfairly accuse him/her rather than owning up to his own misdeeds. To remain above reporach, PA's set themselves up as the apparently hapless, innocent victim of your excessive demands and tirades.

*MAKING EXCUSES & LYING - The p/a reaches as far as he/she can to fabricate excuses for not fulfilling promises. As a way of withholding information, affirmation or love - to have power over you - the p/a may choose to make up a story rather than give you a straight answer.

*PROCRASTINATION - The p/a has an odd sense of time - believes that deadlines don't exist for him/her.

*AMBIGUITY - master of mixed messages and sitting on fences. When he/she tells you something, you may still walk away wondering if he/she actually said yes or no.

*SULKING - Feeling put upon when unable to live up to his promises or obligations, the p/a retreats from pressures and sulks, pouts and withdraws.

now what was that about home made ice cream?

Kevin Wilbanks
07-17-2003, 08:42 PM
I'm not saying it's better than your favorite flavor, but Ben and Jerry's "Chubby Hubby" is very good: peanut-butter-filled, chocolate-covered pretzels, in vanilla ice cream with peanut butter and fudge swirled in. It's OK if you like some other kind better. I've been feeling vulnerable lately, but it's not like it would hurt my feelings or anything. Heck, some other kind may actually BE better. I probably wouldn't know, because I'm always the last person anybody tells about anything. I suppose I could try another kind if you really think it's better, but I don't know when I'll be able to get around to it. I mean, ice cream is very important to me, but I've just been so busy lately... It's probably just as well anyway, because my taste buds don't work so well, and people are always making fun of me when I go out to eat with them for not noticing something or ordering the wrong thing... that is, when I can even get any of my friends to go out with me anymore. It seems like I'm always the lowest priority. I could probably just up and die and most of them wouldn't even notice. I bet nobody will even try Chubby Hubby now that I've mentioned it. I probably never should have brought it up. It's been a while since I've tried it anyway, so it may not be as good as I remembered.

Largo
07-17-2003, 09:41 PM
This is the kind of stuff I was thinking about when I posted about "jutsu and do". I've actually found that aikido is pretty aggressive (well...maybe assertive would be a better term). This is despite a background in karate, muay thai, and various S.E. asian arts.

YEME
07-17-2003, 09:49 PM
I'm not saying it's better than your favorite flavor, but Ben and Jerry's "Chubby Hubby" is very good: peanut-butter-filled, chocolate-covered pretzels, in vanilla ice cream with peanut butter and fudge swirled in.
i might try some of that, then again i might not. and if i do ...it'll be later. but only because you made it sound so appealing. and you'll just think i'm greedy if i try it now.

:)

Aemon_
07-18-2003, 07:36 AM
Some Basic traits of Passive Aggressive....

now what was that about home made ice cream?
thanks alot!

there is some ben and jerrys ice cream that we go the other day, it was cinnamon ice cream, with oatmeal cookie dough and something else. but that stuff is good!

later

Scott Sweetland
07-18-2003, 09:55 PM
If passive / agressive were an ice-cream

what flavor would it be?
Vanilla Jalapeno :P

opherdonchin
07-18-2003, 10:55 PM
I've actually found that aikido is pretty aggressive (well...maybe assertive would be a better term). This is despite a background in karate, muay thai, and various S.E. asian arts.So, I'm curious about this. How does this tie into jutsu and do? What is aggressive or assertive about Aikido? How does its aggressive or assertive nature compare to karate, muay thai or any other S.E. Asian art? And, finally, what is the 'this' that you were looking for that you've found here but not in the other thread?